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May-June 1978 Vol. 2 No. 5
CONTENTS
EDITOR'S COLUMN
READERS' FORUM
EVENTS AND PERSONALITIES
NEWS FROM THE MEDIA
ZOROASTRIANS ABROAD
THE CAMA BAUG EPISODE
Interview by Shireen Gobhai
INTERVIEW : Shiavax Nargolwala
THE GIFT OF WINGS
by Jeroo Gorimar
LISTENING FOR MANAGERS ..
Book Review by A. D. Moddie
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5Editor ’s Column
worship of God or the supernatural ”.
So it is clear that if any differences
arise in any matter pertaining to re
ligion, no discussion can take place.
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fought for his children ’s rights. There
was the possibility that through behind
the scenes negotiations, Enty could
have obtained permission to use the
In short the community ’s apex body hall, but he preferred to take the
has negated its role as an apex body, matter to the public and thereby did
Perhaps the next resolution should be the community a great service. By
that the council should not discuss setting an example of what a deter
matters pertaining to the Zoroastrian mined individual can do, he has made
community. This will ensure that no others aware that they have a right to
controversial questions pertaining to use the halls, even if they have mar
The saga of the Federation of the
Parsi Zoroastrian Anjumans of India
is slowly assuming the proportions of
a soap opera. The climax of the cur- ...
rent chapter hinges on whether or not controversial questions pertammg to use the halls, even if they have mar-
the disgruntled trustees of the Bombay community arise. Shortly after ried out of the community. Of course
Parsi Panchayat (BPP) will rejoin the
Federation and find true happiness or
whether the Federation will become
just another affair to remember.
Amidst the suspense, intrigue and
anguish, the drama unfolds in Bom
bay, Delhi and the far comers of the
country. Indeed so crucial has the
question of the BPP resigning or re-
that the council should pass a resolu- this right only extends to Parsi males
tion saying that no discussion on any because ours is a backward community
subjects should be permitted and the in many respects, but perhaps now
delegates should gather only for com- some women will come forward and
munal prayers, falooda and malido. fight as bravely as Enty did. If change
This would ensure the much desired will not come from above, it must
unity, or what Mahatma Gandhi
termed “the peace of the graveyard.'
So long as the BPP trustees view
the Federation as a threat to their char is evidence that there are many
hegemony, it is apparent they will in the community to help such people
sabotage its functioning from within or fight community causes.
without. Thus we find that though the
BPP severed its ties with the Federa- _ _________________________ _ ___ _
tion, they stUl tried to pressure the
come from below. The gratuitous
assistance rendered to Enty by both
Rusi Sethna and The Bombay Sama-
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joining become that people have lost
sight of the larger issue, namely what
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munity.
Assuming that the BPP trustees
want to remain out of the Federation,
should they be enticed back? So long other member anjumans to resign and
as there is no unity of thought can a
Federation comprising all the Anju
mans in India serve a purpose? One
found in the past that on a subject because they felt they were unloved
— - - - and that the Federation served no pur
pose, the question arises as to why so
In many of the other anjumahs followed
suit? Why did they not exercise their
sign a requisition demanding the A HUNDRED YEARS AGO
Federation be wound up.
While the BPP left the Federation
genuinely felt the Federation served no
purpose, why did they not resign ear
such as the uplift of the Zoroastrian
priesthood, on which all delegates were
in agreement, nothing was done. L.
meeting after meeting, the representa- . . .
tives were informed that time was individual judgement? Why did they
required and a report would be ready forsake^their leadership role? If Jhey
for the next meeting, but to no avail.
At the Executive Council meeting _ -
in Delhi on July 15, the delegates Her? A few Anjumans such as Cal-
passed a resolution to the effect that cutta and Secunderabad & Hyderabad
have not signed the requisition and
have also made it clear that they will
not kowtow to the BPP. With their co
operation and that of a few other anju
mans, the Federation can and should
continue. In d»e time the other anju
mans will eithei come around or form
a parallel body. If they form a second
In his speech at Nowsaree, Sir p
Richard Temple dwelt upon the fact
that the Parsees, who were once an
agricultural and military race, are
now neither cultivators nor soldiers.
They are merchants, shop-keepers,
and clerks, most of them being
anxious to live by their brains rather
than by their hands. If they continue to
increase in numbers. His Excellency
said, this state of things cannot con
tinue. Parsees must take to agriculture,
to handicrafts, even to soldiering. To
this statement we might take the pre
liminary objection that it is very
doubtful whether the Parsees are
“continuing to increase. ” They are
said to have ceased to increase and
multiply, and are now in some dan
ger of experiencing a slow decline.
For marriage is looked upon by many
of the younger generation as a peri
lous venture not to be entered into
untd the future is made more or less
certain. A certain standard of com
fort, or, if the word is thought more
controversial religious questions would
not be taken up by the council. The
resolution which is a sop to the BPP
trustees, has made a mockery of the
Federation. Cannot the representa
tives of the various anjumans of India,
people who control crores of rupees of
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to discuss religious matters? Is it body, let them do so. Competition is
- - - - - often a spur to achievement. What the
community needs today is leaders not
tmst funds and properties, be relied
on 1
that the community feels the funds
are safe with these people but not oui
traditions and principles? And what peacemakers,
constitutes a religious controversy? If
a representative were to say that the
sale of sandalwood should be sub
sidized and another representative The Cama Bang incident in which
differed as he felt it would mean the trustees of the hall initially re
subsidizing an individual ’s religious fused to permit its use for Soonnu
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applicable, of luxury, has been set up |
Enty ’s navjote as her mother was a
non-Parsi (see “The Cama Bang Epi-
. fit a
controversy as “a discussion marked community where too many Zoroas-
by the community, and habits of ex
travagance and display have been ac
quired which will possibly have the
same effect in encouraging a prone-
cease. non-Farsi (see "me cama uaug npi- ®®ss to celibacy amongst the Zoroas-
The Webster ’s Dictionary defines sode ”), has its brighter side. In a tr-an community that the progress of
controversy as “a discussion marked community where too many Zoroas- nineteenth century civilization has
especially by the expressing of opposing trians have been indifferent to the plight had upon our middle class at home.
Rusi Enty took up the cudgels and Prom The Times of India, 7-3-78.
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Scapegoats compound) houses photographic
Parsis should refrain from making colour exhibits of what appear to be
inter-marriage a scapegoat for the such Chinese embroidered work,
internal ills of the community. In However, the plates have been gene
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a mixed marriage —if ‘torn ’ children rally bunched together in large picture
exist, the cause is not mixed marri
ages, but the immaturity of the par
ents who come to live together as
one, yet refuse to compromise. Where taken irom a book on Indian em-
there is unity of purpose in the minds broidery written by a Frenchman at
of the parents, dualism in religion or
culture can never exist.
As for mixed marriages leading to
frames along with Indian embroidery.
The curator informs me that this
information and the plates have been
taken from a book on Indian
the turn of the century. I wonder if
any one who knows whether these are
__ __ ______ _ of Indian or Chinese origin, could
the extinction of the good qualities Apts., Off
Parsis are noted for, are other races
not endowed with a sense of charity,
enterprise, tolerance, honesty etc?
It is asked that if ail people belong
to one family, why did God give them
different physical characteristics. The
answer is how can there be any type
of “sameness ” in a world family when
even in a nuclear family the members
are not the same? Even in a nuclear
family one child may be dark,
other may be fair; one upright, an
other a swindler —and all of the same
Differences in pattern,
colour and trait, are a result of genes,
geographical and atmospheric loca
tion and surroundings, and not a re
sult of “creation."
Altamount Road, Bombay 400 026.
Ms S. N. NANPORIA
One Hundred Years Ago
For some time past the Guzerati
papers have been full of complaints
regarding the defectiveness of the law
regulating marriage and divorce
among Parsees, A recent, issue of the
Sammachar gives publicity to a com
munication from a Parsee at Surat
who is so alarmed at the social abus
es which have crept in through the
laxity of the law now prevailing, that
he loudly calls upon the heads of the
community to set about amending it,
lest scandals abound to the utter
deterioration of domestic morals
amongst his people. As matters stand
now, the most flagrant breaches of
conjugal duty are treated with a leni
ency quite disproportionate to the
gravity of the offence, and thus it
, happens that the endurance of so
come Zarathushtrians, they cannot do 1978). light a penalty as a short period of in-
so as they lack adequate support and The kusti is neither cracked nor carceratinn mieht suffice tn release
priests to perform the Navjote whipped, but is gently shaken with the either party to a marriage from all
Ceremony. We are willing to arrange right hand, toward the left hand side obligation to behave to the other as
for and perform such navjotes. Inte- of the person. It matters little whe- his or her wife or husband
rested pcrsoIB may contact us at ther yoS face the Sun, east, south or " “X 2/3/77
Readers' views are welcome on any
subject of interest to the community
and should be sent to The Editor,
Readers' Forum, Parsiana, G.P.O. Box
892, Bombay 400 001. Letters are sub
ject to editing for reasons of space and parentage,
clarity.
and
an-
KASHMIRA B. BARIA
ZEST Services Directions, please
Many Zarathushtrian mothers who K. D. Chargeman inquires about
are married to non-Zarathushtrlans,
find that though their husbands arc
'to allow their children to be- willing
cracking or whipping a kusti and the
direction to be faced while doing so
(Readers ’ Forum, Parsiana March
1 The kusti is neither cracked nor
priests to perform the Navjote whipped, but is gently shaken with the
for and perform such navjotes. Inte- of the person. It matters little whe
ther you face the Sun, east, south or
Zaruthushtrians for Emancipation west, so long as you do not face
& Socio - Religious - Transformation North in accordance with Zoroastrian
(ZEST), C/o Y. M. Khambatta, scriptures. If one ties the kusti after
Uranwalla Mansion, Opposite Family sunset, one must face the light, be it
Planning Hospital, Parel, Bombay . . _
400012. „ ____ ____ ____________
Those priests who are willing to what? Perhaps a scholar can help. ...
register themselves with us as part or f, f. mullan
full-time priests, may kindly contact udvada
us. All correspondence will be treat
ed as strictly confidential.
We are organizing volunteers to im
part Zarathushtrianism to children in
a lamp or electricity. But if the light Rashid D. Bamanbehram
Professional Photographer, Press
Photographer.
For photos of weddings, Navjotes
and birthday parties contact :
is on the North side of the wall, then
Made in China?
I am interested in collecting any
information on Chinese embro ’deries
selected age groups using modem {gha^as, jhublas, borders) made^ for
methods and available aids. Those
who wish to volunteer to teach may
contact us.
Y. M. KHAMBATTA
the Parsis in western India around the
turn of the century.
Bombay ’s Victoria and Albert
Museum (in the Jeejamata Udyan
and
Rashid D. Bamanbehram
Flat No. 3, First Floor
No. 6 Wadia Block
Khareghat Colony, 30A Hughes Road
Bombay 400 007.
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Events and
Personalities
"The Gathas"
The _____
books on 2Loroastrianism is a major
handicap to the study and understand
ing of the religion. Aside from a few
second hand book shops and from
a few Parsi households, there are
hardly any other sources for acquiring
the out of print books. Burjor Tara-
porewala, whose father was the
renowned Zoroastrian scholar, Irach
J. S. Taraporewala, has over the course
of the years reprinted some of the
books penned by his father. These ___ ________ ,
include The Gathas, Daily Prayers stood first class first in the M.Ed. ex-
and The Religion of Zarathushtra. ------ ’ ’ ¦’ ’ ’
But “during the last ten years, ” notes
Burjor Taraporewala in _ ____
addressed to those interested in re- ________ __________
printing the books, “the cost of book degree in education; Ms Banoo Soli
publication...has risen steeply. I have
been unable to republish the books ____„__ ______ _____ -_ —--
for lack of finance ”. Taraporewala the Higher School Leaving Certificate
proposes to reprint the combined examination, securing 85 percent and
Gujerati-English edition of the The 84 percent respectively.
Gathas for which demand is consider- In the transition column are list
able both in India and abroad. But ed: Dr Jamshedji Byrams hah Jagus,
as each copy will cost between Rs 25 ' ” ” " '
to Rs 30 he adds the reprinting will
only be possible if there are “suffi
cient ” funds at his disposal.
amount should contact Taraporewala
at India House No. 2, Flat 14, 3rd
floor, Kemp ’s Comer, August Kranti
we may encounter him, the collec- tary. Dr Maesimund B, Panos, inform
non-availability of scholarly live effect of this small gesture would
7—. go a long way to build up his pres
tige not only (amongst) Zoroastrians an examination,
but also in the eyes of people of
other communities. ”
In other news, the newsletter
notes that: Neville Homi Irani, pre
sident of the Young Zoroastrians
Youth Association, stood first class
in the B. E. (metallurgy) First Sem
ester Examination. Neville is a Na
tional Government Merit Certificate
holder; Ms Zarine Lam (Karani)
amination and earned the Lok Manya
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scholarship from the University of tuted with Wadia as one of its mem-
" ¦ ’ ‘ " bers and later chairman.
Wadia notes that Parsis have been
pioneers in homoeopathy with the
substantial contributions of doctors
such as the late Burjo Behram, Edul
Behram and Navroji Mehta. “All these
three doctors were allopathic graduates
like me but opted for homoeopathy, ”
notes Wadia. “This class of allopa-
ing Wadia of the award for which he
had to submit a thesis and appear for
a letter
The first Indian to be made a fellow
of the Hahnemaan Medical Society of
America, Wadia has held many pro-
minent positions in national and in
ternational homoeopathic organiza
tions. When homoeopathy was not
recognised in the old state of Bombay,
Wadia along with a committee of
seven others impressed upon'the state
government the need for formal re
cognition. As a result the Homoeopa-
___ J- thic Act of 1951 was-passed in the
Tilak Prize. She has reportedly won Assembly and a tribunal was consti-
the
Denver in the U.S.A, for a master ’s
Irani and Hoshedar Feroz Tamboli
were among the top 20 candidates in
In the transition column are list-
one of the Trustees of the Poona
Parsee Panchayat for the last 20
years, was connected with the Lions
.----- ------- Club, Blind Men ’s Association,
who can contribute or help raise the Jaycees and many other organisa-
ptnAimt ___ 1 _ m • • t •» . « .
at India House No. 2, Flat" 14, 3rd
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Marg, Bombay 400 036.
Those
tions; Shapoorji Nusserwanji Ankles-
aria, well-known businessman who
had brought the name of Poona and
his concern on the transport map of
India; and Mottu Darashah Mohta-
bhoy, who aided the community ’s
Respectfully Yours Youth Wing, following an accident in
The Poona Parsi Panchayat, one of factory.
the few anjumans in India to publish a
newsletter, has suggested a simple,
economic and effective way of uplift- Homoeopathic Pioneer
ing the priesthood, namely, educating Dr Sarosh Wadia the noted Bombay
behdins. “It is incumbent upon every homoeopath has been made a Diplo-
Zoroastrian that whenever he comes mate of the American Board of
across an Athoman Saheb, he should Homoeotherapeutics, (ABH) the first
wish him and show respect to him, ” non-American to be so honoured
notes the newsletter. “If all of us since the last six or seven years,
make an effort to extend courteous “We all know of your fine work”
respect to every (priest) whenever noted a letter from the ABH secre-
since the last six or seven years.
“We all know of your fine work”
Wadia: “Fine Work”
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nominal hire, and assisting children
to gain admission into schools and
night classes at reduced fees.
The HH workers can be contacted
on any Tuesday, Wednesday or Fri-
10.30 and noon at St Sebastian ’s
Goan High School, St Xavier Street,
Girgaon, Bombay 400 002.
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The Inner Eye
Bombay eye surgeon, Keiki R. Mehta
has been honoured by the American
Intra-Ocular Implant Society for his
_ . ------ innovative work on a soft lens im-
Thejrime^ and Talents Club, one of plant for cataract patients. Mehta
J „ '¦ picked up an “appreciation ” award
zations, is the Helping Hand (HH) and certificate earlier this year in Los
project which completed its second Angeles when he presented a paper
anniversary this July. Created with the along with a demonstration film, at
objective of counselling women in
the education, employment, marriage.
Mdita: Soft Lens Implant
Helping Hands
Among the many services offered by
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Bombay ’s leading social service organi-
project which completed its second Angeles when he presented a paper
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objective of counselling women in
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children, divorce, the law, taxes,
medical and other fields, the com
mittee has banded together a group
of professionals “specialized in var- —x,,
ious spheres to give the best possible tors S. N. Sathe and S. D. Karyekar, College Jubilee
help and guidance where necessary. ” the Mehta Soft Lens Implant is now Twenty-five years ago the Sir J. J.
Over 70 cases had been registered being “routinely fitted and we haven ’t College of Commerce had its humble
till March; these included saving a had any problems, ” says the 37-year- beginnings as a typewriter institute in
marriage between an inter-caste cou- old doctor. the Sir J. J. Parsi Benevolent Institu-
ple, obtaining a divorce for a woman While a contact lens is fitted on tion building on Dadabhoy Naoroji
from an “unendurable marriage, ’* ‘ '' .
of professionals “specialized in var-
the invitation of the Society, the lar
gest of its kind in the world. The
paper, based on 35 cases, was also
read at the National Eye Research
Foundation Conference in Chicago.
Developed in conjunction with Doc
tors S. N. Sathe and S. D. Karyekar,
the Mehta Soft Lens Implant is now
a Fellowship in the Royal Society of
Health, London, last year.
“India has a large cadre of skilled
ophthalmic surgeons, only held back
by the high price of imported instru
ments, ” Mehta says. “If we were al
lowed to purchase research instru
ments at cost, India could soon rank
among the best in the world.
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help and guidance where necessary.
dll March; these included saving a had any problems, ” says the 37-year-
-X • . doctor.
While a contact lens is fitted on
the eye and is removable, an implant Road. The funds came from the un-
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sisted of Sir N. J. Wadia (as Chair
man), Prof P. C. Hansotia, Mr R. P.
Dalal, Dr R. C. Cooper, Mr R.
Nanabhoy and Mr J. H. Cama. The
utilized monies of a madressa fund.
Today, the Sir J. J. College of Com
merce is one of the leading institu
tions of its kind in Bombay and offers ----------- .
an array of courses in the secretarial, enlarged educational operation also
commercial and business fields. Occu- involved a larger financial aid. and
pying almost an entire building in the the Trustees, with the permission of
Fort area, the college which functions the H-gh Court, were able to annually
“under the overall umbrella ” of the divert a part of the income ^ccruing
Bombay Parsi Panchayat trustees, is ‘ ""
a self-sufficient body and a model for
other trusts to emulate.
In an article written on the occa
sion of the College ’s silver jubilee,
Homi D. Mehta, the institute ’s hono
rary director, noted the college “has a
unique identity and its functioning is
interwoven with sound management
principles and practices. ” Jamshed N.
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managing committee and
leased for the anniversary that “in the
context of recent happenings in the
where because of constant changes cipal. The Trustees were also able to
students completing High School have spare some premises in the Dhun
been thoroughly demoralised and fru- Building at 14 Nanabhoy Lane and the
Strated, institutions like the Sir J. J. ’ ’ ’
College of Commerce, imparting much
needed commercial education, have
I proved to be a great blessing. ”
involved a larger financial aid, and
the High Court, were able to annually
under the Sir J. J. Madressa Fund.
“There was a steady increase in en
rolments and the Institute was fortu
nate in attracting good faculty mem
bers who considered the assignment
more as a social service than a means
of livelihood. There was also a need
to have separate premises to run the
institution on a full time basis.
“The year 1960 was essentially a
turning point in the history of the in
stitute. The Trustees of the Parsee
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Guzder, chairman of the college ’s
managing committee and a noted -------- —
businessman stated in his message re- Panchayat appointed ’Mr Maneck
Pheroze Mistry as the Chairman of
the then Advisory Committee and
Prof P. C. Hansotia as the Hon. Prin-
educational system of our country.
students completing High School have spare some premises in the Dhun
institute was housed there. It started
to operate its shorthand and type
writing classes on a full time basis and
its diploma classes on a morning part
The story of the Sir J. J. College of time basis. In the same year, with a
¦ - — - ’ • view to complying with Government
regulations. Sir J. J. Commercial In
stitute was retained to conduct only
courses approved by the Government
of Maharashtra for their commerce
Diploma, and all other courses were
transferred to another institution
Commerce goes back to Sir Jamshet-
jee Jeejeebhoy, “a man of great fore
sight and vision, ” notes Mehta “who
earmarked his personal estate to
establish a chain of institutions which
could be the temples of learning. In
the area of office training and com- transferred to another institution
merce educat ’on, an institution styled styled as Sir J. J. College of Com
as Sir J. J. P. B. Institution Commer
cial Classes was constituted as early
as in 1914, to be run under the aus
pices of the then Trustees of the Parsi
Panchayat, Bombay. These classes
cove ’-ed the subjects of typewriting,
shorthand and book-keeping. The 1968, launching of the executive secre-
classes were essentially on a part time tarial course for graduate students —
basis and they served their utility for the first of its kind in India —and est-
almost four decades. ’ " ' ' - ’ j- -
“The then Trustees of the Parsee
Panchayat, as a part of their program-
merce. ”
Some of the subsequent highlights
in the history of the college include
establishment of a full fledged secre
tarial division in 1966, affiliation with
business colleges in the U.S.A, in
ablishment of a foreign students divi-
s'on in 1969; in the succeeding years a
publication div'sion, and a computer
me for the amelioration of the Parsee wing for punch operating were started,
youth through education, felt it op
portune to convert the “Ccr^ncrce
Classes ” into a “Commercial In-
sHtute ”. Hence, upon the recommen
dation of an expert committee set up from the Indian Merchants ’ Chamber
by them for th's purpose, they trans- for conducting the course leading to
formed the Commercial Classes in+o their diploma in business manage-
the “Sir J. J. Commercial Institute ”.
This was done in June 1953. The
Trustees also appointed an Advisory
Committee to advise them on the aca
demic operations and the administra
tive set UP of the Institute.
“The first Advisory Committee con-
• the correspondence course division was
‘Commerce established in 1972, and in 1975 the
college started the business manage
ment division and received accredition
ment.
As Bombay Parsi Panchayat Chair
man Mr B. K. Boman-Behram noted
in his coneratulatorv message, “I am
sure the Silver Jubilee will mark a
further milestone in the growth and
progress of the college. ”
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samy, Air-India ’s managing director, *
presented Mr. Tata with a silver
model of the Puss Moth which he
flew on India ’s first scheduled air
mail flight from Karachi to Bombay
on October 15, 1932. {Indian Express
and Times oj India}.
the
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and journals. Readers are
welcome to send in clippings.
President's Police Medal
Inspector Minoo Irani of the Jogesh- >
wari Police Station who handled the
communal riots in Bombay ’s Jogesh- ¦'
wari area in 1974 and 1975, has won •
the President ’s Police Medal for
meritorious service for his several f
detections of housebreaking, thefts,
busting of gangs of car thieves and -
bullies in the suburbs. I
A former student of Bharda New I
High School and Ruia College, Irani I
joined the police force in 1950. He I
was posted at Nasik and later to the |
Baroda District. He is credited with
detecting the Asaj Village quadruple Chinoy: researcher and teacher
murder at Baroda District and since
his transfer to Bombay in 1957 has
served at various Police Stations in
the city and also in the Detection of
Crime Branch and Foreigners Branch,
C.I.D.
Lt.-Gen. Sethna is MGO at army
headquarters.
New Delhi, July 30: Lt.-Gen. A. M.
Sethna, AVSM, has taken over as the
master general of ordinance at the
army headquarters, says an official
release. He was the commandant of
the defence services staff college at
Wellington and has been promoted to
the rank of lieutenant-general on as
suming this appointment.
Gen. Sethna was closely connected
with the planning and execution of
the operations in support of the
Mukti Bahini during the Indo-Paki-
stan conflict in 1971 and in recogni
tion of his distinguished service of
an exceptional order, he was award
ed the ati vishisht seva medal in 1972.
{Times oj India.}
A
&
Award for JRD
Bombay, June 15: The former chair
man of Air-India, J. R. D. Tata, has
been selected for the Tony Jannus
Award for 1979 in recognition of his
outstanding contribution to the deve
lopment of air transport.
Appropriately enough, the message
informing him of the award was re
ceived by Tata as he was being
felicitated by the Air-India staff in
his office today. The message re
quested him to accept the award at
a special ceremony in Tampa, Florida,
in March.
At today ’s reception, K.G. Appu-
Kutch-Bhuj in Gujarat. He obtained
his B.Sc. and M.Sc. degrees with
distinction from Bombay University
in 1929 and 1931 respectively. During
that tenure, he was awarded the
Dakshina Fellowship of the Royal
Institute of Science and the Research
Fellowship of Bombay University as
well as the Foreign Research i
Fellowship for further studies in the J
United Kingdom. He joined the '
Imperial College, London University
for his Ph.D. degree under the guid
ance of the world renowned botanist.
Professor F. G. Gregory and obtain
ed his Ph.D. in 1935. On his return
to India, he joined the Indian Cen
tral Cotton Committee, Lyalpur as a
Physiological Assistant. In 1941, he
joined Indian Agricultural Research
Institute as second Assistant Econo
mic Botanist. In 1947, he was ap
pointed Reader in Botany in Delhi
University where 1^ continued work
ing upto 1959.
as
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" * ing upto 1959. Dr. Chinoy joined
jy Gujerat University as Professor of
Botany in 1959 and from 1962 to 1974 ¦
he was the Director of the Univer- j
sity School of Sciences.
For the last 50 years he was
closely associated with pure and ap- i
plied research in agricultural botany
and plant physiology and his work
has received worldwide recognition.
In 1959 he presided over a session of :
plant physiology section of the IXth ;
International Botanical Congress held i
at Montreal, Canada. He was elected i
“Physiology of ;
Botanist Flowering ” Session at a conference ¦
Professor Jamshedji Jijibhoy Chinoy held in 1960 at the Indian Council of
was born on 18th February, 1909 at Agricultural Research, New Delhi. In j
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Irani: meritorious service
In 1972 he arrested Phiroze
Daruwala who had murdered four
persons at Bombay ’s Dhobi Talao
area. Irani was promoted to Asstt.
Inspector of Police in 1973 and as
Police Inspector in 1977.
Professor J. J. Chinoy—Leading Chairman of the
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awarded Give the picture a caption
him the Dr K. G. Naik Gold Medal
for his brilliant research. The Indian
Council of Agricultural Research,
New Delhi awarded him the coveted H
Rafi Ahmed Kidwai Memorial Prize H
for 1974-75 for his researches in the ||v
field of Agro-botany and Plant R
Physiology. On 12th September. 1976, K|
Professor Chinoy was felicitated by IF*
The Ahmedabad Parsi Panchayat. K
Professor Chinoy ’s researches on Wl
Physiology of seed germination, i j
drought resistance, growth and deve- atsM
lopment, energy requirements of
plants, cellular and molecular aspects
of floral induction and the role of
corbie acid in plant metabolism
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embodied in 251 research papers
which are well-known and highly ac
claimed in national and international
circles. Most of the work has been
I W reviewed in scientific monographs and
is often quoted in books and reviews, t t
In Gujarat University, he has estab-
lished a strong and internationally re
cognized School of Plant Physiology,
and more than 100 students have ob
tained their Ph.D. degree under his
guidance. Chinoy passed away in
Ahmedabad in May 1978.
Submitted by Ratan Marshall from
Navyug Science College journal.
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The young ones
“A young lot starting out, ” is how
Mahbanu Ostowari, secretary of the
Australian Zoroastrian Association
(AZA) in New South Wales, describes
the Australian Zoroastrian communi -
ty. There are approximately 300 to
400 Zoroastrians in Australia, all of
whom are “well settled, ” most of
them highly skilled professionals with
a few in business, said Ostowari, who
was recently on a visit to India. A
mother of three who works in the
public relations department of Bristol
Meyers, Ostowari traces the New
South Wales Zoroastrian community ’s
genesis to 1967 when the population
„ comprised of three or four families.
“We started (an informal association)
on a small scale around the end of
1969” when there were around seven
or eight families. Since 1970 the num
bers increased progressively to the
present 200. “There was quite an in
flux from Calcutta, ” she recalled. The
Whites Only Australian emigration
policy restricted entry to larger num
bers but Ostowari noted that once m
the southern continent, there was “no
discrimination.
About four years back, the Zoroas
trians started “in more earnest ” to
form an association. A constitution
was drawn up, office bearers elected
and a newsletter published. The as
sociation has three main get-togethers
namely at Jamshedi Navroz, Pateti
and Christmas. “The Christmas
gathering is invariably a bhel puri
party, ” says Ostowari. In addition,
I B an annual jashan at the commence-
ment of the year, picnics, theatre par
ties, discussion and study groups are
held; every second Sunday, religious
classes are conducted for youngsters,
mainly in the five to fifteen age
group. Stories from the Shahnameh
and other sources are related by Far
rokh Mistree, AZA’s treasurer and
prayers are taught by Dr Peshotan
Katrak, the association ’s vice-presi
dent. Three navjotes have been held
in the last three years; “people prefer
to come here ” (to Bombay) for the
navjotes, said Ostowari. Elections
are held annually and members of
the association are eligible to vote;
Ms Gulu Billimoria was elected pre
sident last July. The AZA also had
the distinction of having a non-Zoro-
astrian secretary a year ago, Emani
Giambuzzi who served three terms.
“He was really good for the associa
tion, ” said Ostowari.
“The
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A “big factor ” in the young asso
ciation ’s existence was a visit by
Farrokh ’s brother Khojaste Mistree,
the charismatic, scholar-cum-preacher
whose lectures attract large munbers
of the community in India as well as
overseas. Other visiting scholars in
cluded Framroz Rustomjee of Sri
Lanka, author of The Daily Prayers
of the Zoroastrians and other books
who expired in Australia recently.
The AZA so far “has not felt the
necessity to look for guidance ’
community matters to Bombay or
anywhere else says Ostowari, the
issues being resolved by the AZA as
and when they arise. The associa
tion ’s plans for the future include a
community center for which a build
ing fund has been started. “We are
still working out the feasibility, ” she
replied when asked their target for
collection.
The community Ostowari notes is
“still very young ” but she foresees
for it a “flourishing ” future.
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of
Canadians of the Future
One of the primary objectives
of Zoroastrians overseas is to enligh
ten the community at large as to who
they are, what they contribute to
their host country and what they ex
pect in turn. In Canada, the Cana
dian Consultative Council on Multi
culturalism held hearings earlier this
year on the problems “confronting
visible minorities in Canada. ” The
Zoroastrian Society of Ontario (ZSO),
presented a brief entitled “Canadians
of the Future ” which was prepared
by Jamshed Mavalwala, a former
president of ZSO, and presented by
Sarosh Bharucha. We carry below
extracts from the brief as published
in the April Z.S.O. Newsletter:
“The Zoroastrian community of
Ontario still upholds the values and
morals preached by Zarathustra, our
Prophet, six centuries before Christ.
As the first monotheistic religion our
basic tenets are Good Thoughts,
Good Words, and Good Deeds. Our
faith exhorts us to actively participate
in society to further human good.
Zoroastrian charities are well-lmown
in Iran, India, Pakistan, and Great
Britain, and we hope that the acts of
our tiny community in Canada will
be of benefit to all Canadians.
“We see ourselves as committed
Canadians, committed to a multi
cultural Canada, and committed to a
united Canada. We support and
Canadians,
praise the Government of Canada
for its multicultural policy and hope
that all of us in Canada will learn to
enjoy the diversity of peoples here,
and the cosmopolitan excellence of
our cities. We would urge the Gov
ernment of Canada, through your
Council, that in implementing its
multicultural policies it go beyond
grants for ethnic dances, and ethnic
food. We, like thousands upon
thousands of others, who have come
here to make Canada our new
home. . .seek with the many thousands
of peoples in Canada like us, to live
rich and full lives in this country. We
seek to secure a proper recognition
of our similarities, and an apprecia
tion of our differences; to serve our
country in meaningful ways.
“We are a community of doctors,
lawyers, businessmen, university pro
fessors, school teachers, and accoun
tants. .. We want to be treated as
mainstream Canadians, not as
‘ethnics ’... We need encouragement
to help us communicate with each
other in Canada. We need encourage
ment to participate in Government at
all levels, municipal, provincial and
federal. We need to feel that you ;
in your Council, and those who you
advise in Ottawa, see us as we see
ourselves, not as immigrants only, or
as new Canadians only, but as
Canadians of the Future, helping to
build and strengthen a glorious new
Canada. ..”
Plans for the “Mehraban Guiv
Darbe Mehr Zoroastrian Temple, ”
the fifty lakh rupee project financed
by Iranian millionaire philantrophist
Arbab Rustam Guiv. are progressing :
despite legal and technical hitches,
notes the May-June ZSO Newsletter.
The bulletin notes the general body
voted in favour of acquiring the Mazo
de la Roche property in Ontario. The
society ’s consulting architect, Dinshaw
Kanga, pointed out the major struc- |
tural changes planned and “work on
legal agreements, changes and in
corporations to the existing constitu
tion and bylaws etc. still continue to
occupy the attention of the Trustees
and the Executive Committee, ” says
the newsletter.
“Meanwhile, inspite of strong re
presentations made by the Trustees
and friends like Dr Robert McClure?
and Dr Willard Oxtoby on our tie- j
half. North York Council •upheld the j
restricting bylaw to permit only single j
family uses in the area in which the !
15%
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Mazo de la Roche property is located. Bombay, noted that Ms Rustam
The vendor has sued North York Sarfeh, whose husband was instru-
Council in the Ontario Supreme Court mental in ZAGNY receiving a 15-
and as of today, the case is still under lakh rupee donation from Arbab
consideration. The Newsletter will Rustam Guiv for the Darbe Mehr in
keep the communi ty apprised of the New Rochelle, died recently follow-
¦ ¦ ~ '. ing an illness. Both Dr and Ms Sarfeh
have contributed considerable time
and effort to ZAGNY and the
Zoroastrian community in general.
results of this action. But, this too,
we hope, ‘we shall overcome.
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ZAGNY Chief
Dr Lovji Cama, who has served
the Zoroastrian Association of Greater New Quebec Board
New York (ZAGNY) since its incep- A new executive
tion, heads the association ’s new board the Zoroastrian
of directors. He takes over from Prof. .
Erach Munshi, another stalwart of the 1978-1980 term, notes the June
the Greater New York community, issue of Gavashni. The committee
Both Cama and Munshi helped build members comprise Jimmy Bharucha,
up the association into an influential Dolly D^toor, Jangoo Divecha, Gul-
body in the world Zoroastrian com- nar Irani, Gev Karkaria, Fall Shroff,
munity. The other office bearers Rukhshan Surty and Jehan Bagli.
elected for the 1978-80 term are:
Framroze Patel, vice president; Faroke
Gandhi, secretary; Nariman Deboo,
joint secretary; Sarosh Sukhia, trea
surer; Prof. Kaikhosrov Irani, ---- — . ---------- -----
Dinshaw Mehta, Fred Morris, and Montreal, PQ H4Z IJ9 Canada.
Ms Navaz Bhavnagri, all members of Cheques should be made out to the
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Prof. Irani, who was on a visit to {Gavashni}^
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It started out simply enough. Rusi J.
Enty, the principal of Unity High
School, wanted to perform his daugh
ter, Soonnu ’s navjote at Bombay ’s
Cama Baug on May 2 this year. His
family had an emotional and spiritual
attachment to the place as he had been
residing next door since his childhood
and prayed regularly at the agiary in
Cama Baug. But when he submitted
his application for the loan of the hall
he was pained and angered to find the
trustees had refused him permission.
tude which we are advising our client
to take does not seem to evoke any
1* ” _ ' '¦ _
our client from the draw you have
breach of trust and have also denied
and violated the rights of our client
and his daughter as Parsi Zoroas
trians. ” __ ______________ ________
c ^several meetings between tempt to help me. In fact ’hey humi-
Mulla & Mulla and Craigie Blunt &
amas,” said Enty. “I was in a panic.
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red from participating in the draw
and offering the use of the Cama Baug
favourable response. .. by excluding halls “on any day convenient to him
our client from the draw you have ... even in the month of May, the
committed a totally illegal act, a Baug is available, on 7th May, ” or
’ ' amas, the last day of the moon ’s cycle,
considered to be a very inauspicious
time.
“The trustees made no genuine at-
Sethna, Burjor Antia, a partner of liated me, then gave me (a booking for)
Mulla & Mulla and Craigie Blunt & amas," said Enty. “I was in a panic.
Caroe, advocates for the Cama Baug People had told me to be practical, to
trustees and the trustees themselves, ' ' ’ ' - -
Boman-Behram and Guzder reported-
- ¦ „ ~ - ‘ use
of the halls, while JamaspAsa report-
6n March 24, Antia replied, stating
his clients “regret ” that Enty was bar-
Chief guest Madhukarrao D. Chaudhari, Soonnu, Enty with Parvin and Ms Enty
. —AWXMKZV/U AXAXXX ^/VXXXAlOaXVXl.
The reason; Rusi Enty was married
to a non-Parsi.
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Dastur
“I didn ’t sleep for four nights, ” said ly agreed to permitting Enty the
Enty. “I felt my children were paying < " " ’ ’L, 7____
for my actions ... I take them both to edly resigned from the trust,
the agiary evety day before we go any
where. This is what I did as a boy.
My wife, Harsha, speaks like a Parsi,
cooks like one, looks like one. I wai
ted nine years till the families gave
their consent for me to marry her.
Soonnu knew her prayers since she
was three years old. My mother
taught her. Other functions of mixed
partners are held in the baug. Why
did they pick on me? ”
Fortunately for Enty, the law was on
his side. A child of a Parsi Zoroas
trian father is by definition a Parsi.
The Cama Baug trustees, B. K.
Boman-Behram, Jamshed N. Guzder,
both trustees of the Bombay Parsi
Panchayat, Dastur Kaikhushroo
JamaspAsa, high priest of the Anju-
man Atash Bahram and Munchersha
Billimoria, the managing trustee acted
in violation of the law of the land. Enty
found two strong allies to help him in
his fight, Rusi Sethna, a partner in the
law firm of Romer Dadachanji Sethna
& Co. and Jehan Daruwala, Editor of
The Bombay Samachar, the prestigious
Gujarati daily.
Sethna wrote a strongly worded
letter dated March 1 (see “Dear Sirs”l
stating his clients right to use the hall,
threatening legal action and offering
to meet the trustees to “discuss this
matter.
Despite Sethna ’s letter, when Enty
went to Cama Baug on March 2 to
participate in the draw for the halls,
the secretary of the trust,'E. M. Well
ington, told him that under the rules
and regulations of the trust “I regret
you cannot be allowed the booking of
the Cama Baug Halls."
Sethna dispatched another letter on
March 8 to the trustees noting that “it
is apparent that (the) conciliatory atti
have the navjote performed and then
fight it out. So I rushed to Allbless
Baug. ” The Allbless Baug trustees
agreed to renting Enty the hall. “They
said they wouldn ’t back out. ”
Still the family was “in suspense.
My wife who was one hundred percent
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for the navjote, and Soonnu, who also
got stubborn about this along with me,
were all tired and tense. ” Invitations
were sent out on May 4, three days
before the navjote as Enty wished to
keep the Allbless Baug location a sec
ret for fear of any last minute hitches
or refusal. As a result, says Enty over
100 guests could not attend due to the
short notice. He himself had no time
to get clothes made for the occasion
and wore his wedding clothes, buying
only a new pair of shoes. “I wanted
to get it over with. I also had my
work to worry about, though fortuna
tely they knew my case in the depart
ment and were sympathetic. ”
The navjote was performed by
Enty ’s family priest. Ardeshir Jijina
and his son Rusi. with Maharashtra
minister of revenue, Madhukarrao
D. Chaudhari as chief guest and the
police band “for entertainment ” and
support in case of any unpleasantness.
“We were careful all along, ” says
Enty who took the children to
Wadiaji ’s Atash Bahram after the
ceremony.
“Of course, the way is now clear for
my other daughter, Parvin ’s navjote!
the voluble schoolmaster laughs, but site Cama-Baug Agiyan. vitees who happen to be members of
I am not satisfied. I want to have a (2) that we have regularly been all the communities including Ayahs.
reception for the navjote attendmg Cama Baug Agiyari for our Ramas, dheras, bhangis and chamars
there-not just a jashan which they daffy-prayers. (ajj sons-creat;ons-of God). Even
cant refuse me —which all the people (3) that I and my sister have passed the stage on which the Navjote &
who couldnt come to the ceremony almost every evening of our child- Marriage & Birthday Ceremony is be
ltself, can attend. This tune I will hood as well as of our school career jng performed is bufft bv non-Parsees
Ihe family and friends have all sup- ------- —.........................o
ported Enty ’s struggle, he notes and
total strangers who read about the
case in The Samachar have written to
congratulate him. A Maharashtrian only
gentlemen, one of whose family mem
bers has married a __
asking for an invitation to the navjote
and attended it; Enty says this is “the Thanking you in anticipation,
kind of reaction I have generally got. ” ~ " "
Other Parsi men married to non-Parsis
have written for advice and Enty says
that there are several other similiar _____ ___ _____
cases up at Cama Baug though he has 780101 (per) dated January 12* 1978
had “nothing whatsoever ” to do with ................ - . - ’
them.
“There should be equality, ” answers __ _ _____ ____ _ _ __ _ „„
Enty when asked about the admission ed by Mr Bomansha Sanjana the pan-
into the religion of the children of thaki of Cama Baug Agiary I saw Mr.
Parsi women married “out ” and is Eruchsha Wellington who said
willing to help anyone who wants to " ' '' .
test such a case in the courts.
Enty, who also, teaches at Unity
High School which was founded by
his parents, feels the community “will
do better if we go ahead with modifi- __________ ________ _ xxxxx..^
cations. One has to change with the Lady. I received such a great shock
times. Keep your orthodoxy at home, ” ' ' ‘ ' . - . .
he advises. “A man must have a
right to his own opinions. ”
Dear Sirs
5>
99
We carry the correspondence per
taining to Rusi J. Enty's battle with
the Cama Baug trustees. The letters
were first published in The Bombay
Samachar's Parsi Tari Arsi column of
April 30 written by Editor Jehan
Daruwala.
If
Sir, I beg to say that I would like to
book Cama Bang (Motto Ottlo) Big
Hall —^facing Dreamland Cinema side
for Adar Roj, Adar Maha i.e. Tues
day —May 2, 1978 to celebrate the
Navjote Cerjcmony of my daughter
Miss Soonnu Rusy Enty.
Further, I personally feel that it is
our privilege to make the above men
tioned request on the grounds men
tioned below: —
(1) that since 1942, we have been
staying in Pow-walla Bldg., just oppo
site Cama-Baug Agiyari.
(2) that we have regularly been
who happens to be a descendent of
Sena Dastoor family of Surat) that,
one might not believe that 1 was bed
ridden for a couple of days.
May I request you to enlighten me
on the following points:
Is Civil Marriage an offence?
so, under which law?
2. Even taking for granted that in
your eyes Civil Marriage is a sin even
then no reasonable man in the world
would ever punish an innocent child
for the guilt —so called guilt, of his
father.
3. When according to Parsee Law,
the child is a Zoroastrian child, is it
justifiable to deprive such a child of
his right to have his Navjote Cere
mony performed in Cama Baug
Hall?
Navjote Ceremony is to be per
formed in Cama Baug Hall (Wadi)
which is a public place in the sense
that it is frequently visited by the in-
(3) that I and my sister have passed
almost every evening of our child
hood as well as of our school career
playing in Cama baug. x uavt seen
(4) that my Navjote Ceremony, my Sr^n^iT^i^rwSied- an^clSm
sister ’s Navjote Ceremony, as well as - - » p u auu vicdu
my sister ’s marriage ceremony were _ __ _
celebrated at Cama Baug (big hall) a) wherrthrbnthd^^'^remony
(5) that we are good neighbours
Parsi wrote staying just in the opposite buildings.
‘ ! God bless you and your. Amen.
99
Cordially yours,
ROSY ENTY
Sir, Please refer to my letter Ref. No.
a copy of which is attached herewith
for your ready reference.
On Monday 23rd January as direct-
ed by non-Parsees.
4. I can cite you minimum 3 events
' / was
performed of a child whose father is
a Parsee Gentleman and the mother
happens to be a Christian woman,
b) Two Navjote ceremonies —one
where the mother happens to be an
European Lady and the other where
the mother happens to be a Muslim
Lady. Of course, I shall have to in
vestigate the exact day and date of
the performances.
5. Suppose, the beloved non-Parsee
mother of the child passes away (God
Forbid) after giving him birth, then
the Navjote ceremony of such a child
can be performed in Cama Baug.
6. Suppose, the non-Parsee mother
is dead (God Forbid) and the Parsee
— ------ e woman as
his second wife then who happens to
Eruchsha Wellington who
“Avane Naa Parrij, Bija Trustee E _________ ____
Wandho Lidho” (‘He said no, the husband takes the Parsee
other trustee took objection ’.) I was I' 2, _ ___
taken aback to hear that the objection be the step-mother of the child of
was based on the ground that my the first marriage then the Navjote as
wife was non-Parsee —Gujarati Hindu well as marriage ceremony of such a
was based on the ground that my the first marriage then the Navjote
c_ T. r,. X marriage ceremony of such
child is allowed in Cama Baug, isn ’t
it?
7. Suppose, the Navjote ceremony
(rather the second one, the first being
one on the sad demise of my beloved _ _____________ _
mother Smt, Piroja Jamshedjee Enty of the child of a. Non-Parsee mother
19is already performed and the marriage
ceremony of such a child with a
Parsee gentleman or woman as the
case may be is to be performed that
I think no trustee of Cama Baug
Charity Trust will have any objection
to that?
8. Suppose a Parsee couple adopts
a child from an orphanage without
any knowledge of the religion of the
adopted child who by law carries the
name of his new adopting parents
then the Navjote as well as marriage
ceremony of such a child can be per
formed in Cama Baug or even in
Agiary. Isn ’t it?
9. There are cases of so called High
Society Parsees who smoke cigars and
pipes and cigarettes and who do not
even wear sudras and kustis at all
and the Navjote and the marriage
ceremony of the children of such par-
ents is allowed.
10. God knows so many Navjote
and marriage of such above mention
ed children might have been nay must
have been peifomed in Cama Baug
Hall and Agiary.
If I had asked you to permit me to
perform the Navjote Ceremony of my
daughter Soonnu in Cama Baug Agi
ary where even present panthaki has
no objection and even he cannot take
any objection and the trustee would
have taken any objection though it
would have been invalid illegal, im-
lawful and bad in law and hence in
operative I would have not consider
ed the said objection of the trustee
absolutely unreasonable. In the cir
cumstances may I request you as
well as other trustees to reconsider
the whole issue purely on Humani-
I , tarian grounds and permit me to per-
form the Navjote of my daughter in
Caina Baug.
Now, looking the whole issue from
the other angle, I would like to know
(1) Whether my letter was put be
fore the board of trustees?
(2) If so, is the meeting recorded in
the minute-book of the trust?
(3) The registration No. of the
trust.
(4) Which trustee took the objec
tion?
(5) The names and addresses of the
trustees of the Executive Committee
or of the managing; Board as the case
may be.
Further, I have to request you to
supply me with a copy of the Trust
Deed or the Memorandum of Associa
tion, of course, against cost. And if
you fail to comply with this request
then I shall have to obtain the same
from the Charity Commissioner.
“By excluding our
client from the draw
you have committed
a totally illegal act, a
breach of trust.
))
It will not be out of place to men
tion here that I am also one of the
managing trustees of a Public Trust
holding the designation of the Vice-
Chairman or the Vice-President.
Please do not take this query about
the details of the Trust as any threat,
I would just like to know who are ths
worthy trustees?
, The third recourse, I think open for
me, is to approach the Court of Law
naturally after consulting my Senior
Learned Friend Mr Soli Andhyarujina
(a college-mate): Mr Phiroze Vakil
and Mr. Piloo Irani my beloved Pro
fessors of Law: Mr. Seervai —Ex-
Advocate General: Mr. Nani Palkhi-
walla my idol and none but Mr.
Boman-Behram —a friend, philosopher
and guide.
The fourth course open for me is
Controversy in News Papers.
I do understand that there is time
limit as the month of May is approa
ching fast and to take recourse to
courses no. 2, 3, 4 (the result of which
may not come till December 1978) is
not advisable at all as I being a petty
school-master may be easily defeated
or even if the decision comes in my
favour my conscience will not permit
me to enforce the same upon you peo
ple.
No doubt, there are rules and rules
but at the same time there are excep
tions to the rules too and I with folded
hands once again request you to con
sider it as an exceptional case and not
disappoint my daughter Soonnu who
is bent upon getting her Navjote being
performed at Cama Baug only.
To conclude, in spite of all the
above arguments and the points of
discussion the reply to this letter
comes negative then I think I might
have to come to the decision to give
up the Zoroastrian Religion and not
to follow any other religion at all and
at the same time might not perform
the Navjote of my daughter nor allow
her to follow any other religion at all.
The delay in posting this letter is
due to the fact that I had to think
again and again whether this letter
will serve any purpose or might be
thrown in wastepaper basket consi
dering it to be a bundle of nonsense.
But at the bottom of the heart I
feel that I have performed my duty
towards my child in the capacity of a
beloved father making you request in
this letter to reconsider the whole
issue.
Now, I leave to Almighty (and
here is the sound of nine strokes of
bell of Cama Bang Agiary) to decide
the whole issue through the trustees
of the Cama Bang Trust who in my
opinion are acting as His agents.
I do feel guilty that Mr Manchersa
Billimoria has unfortunately become
victim of this whole issue but I hope
he will try to understand how the
negative reply has hurt the feelings
of a father.
God bless you and yours, amen.
May I request you to expedite the
matter and oblige.
Cordially yours,
ROSY J. ENTY
To
Mr Rusy J. Enty,
Unity High School,
10th Khetwadi Back Road,
Bombay 400004.
Dear Sir,
We have received your letter dated
24th January, 1978 personally deliver
ed by you to our Office Manager on
11th February, 1978.
We have noted the contents and in
reply have to inform you that the
booking of Cama Bang Halls for
Marriages, Navjotes, and other reli
gious ceremonies is subject to the
Rules and Regulations of the Trust.
These Rules and Regulations are
printed on the reverse of our Permit
forms, which can be perused by you
in our Office. Your attention is parti
cularly drawn to Rule-8 which is self-
explanatory.
Yours faithfully.
Managing Trustee
The Trustees,
Cama Bang Charity Trust Fund,
Raja Ram Mohan Roy Road,
New Chami Road
Bombay 400 004.
Dear Sirs,
We write to you under instructions
from our client Mr Rusi J. Enty.
Our client has placed in our hands
the correspondence exchanged between
him and your Managing Trustee Mr.
M. R. Billimoria with instructions to
state as under: —
By his letter dated 12th January,
1978 addressed to your Managing
21
LAgiary or any part of the premises by
a Dastur, Mobed or Athornan who
performs a Navjote or marriage
ceremony therein referred to. Our
client is neither a Dastur nor a Mobed
and although he is an Athornan he
is not going to perform his daughter ’s
Navjote.
However the larger question is
whether in the face of the law, you
can at all make a rule like Rule No. 8
and also whether any such Rule is
valid and or in consonance with the
‘ ‘ Other functions of mixed
partners are held in the
baug. Why did they
pick on me? ”
Dear Sirs,
1. We refer to our letter No.
RS; 1257 of 1st instant addressed to
under instructions from our client
to you on 2nd instant by our client
2. In the last para of our said
letter, we had expressed the hope that
you would not take any steps to pre
judice the rights of our client and his
daughter pending a reply to our letter.
3, Despite this, our client instructs
us to state that when he attended your
office on 2nd instant to participate in
the draw for booking the big Otla of
Cama Baug for 2nd May 1978 (be-
Maha Adar Roj Adar according
Shahenshai calendar), our client
not permitted to participate in
the draw. When our client protested
—¦ Secretary Mr
E^N. Wellington to put it down
in writing, Mr Wellington gave our
client a letter on your letter-head
that under the rules and
regulations of the Trust, our client
could not be allowed booking of the
terms of the Trust on which you hold you under mstruc,™ uom „
the trust property. , . ' ’
Our client instructs us to make it .
clear that it is a settled law that a personally
child of a Parsi Zoroastrian father
and a non-Parsi or non-Zoroastrian
mother is a Parsi-Zoroastrian. Our
client believes that the object of your
Trust is to hold the trust premises for
the benefit of Parsi Zoroastrians and
particularly to hold the halls for per
mitting Parsi Zoroastrians to get aus-
¦ ¦ ; and inauspicious ceremonies
"performed thereat.
It is therefore clear that the appa- mg
t rc’scn for the change of mind to >
"the part of the Managing Trustee was
and IriTd^ghter onigte which and requestedyour
rent reason
on t _ jT — -
is totally invalid and deprives our
client u ------ - —~
they are entitled to enjoy as a Parsi
Zoroastrian.
Our client has instructed us to take
up this matter with the appropriate string
authorities and if necessary to ap-
Trustee, our client requested that he
should be allowed to hold the Navjote
ceremony of his daughter Soonnu on
the big “Otla ” of Cama Baug on 2nd
May, 1978 and mentioned in his letter
the grounds on which he requested
your Managing Trustee to allot the
said Otla to him for that purpose. It
is our client ’s belief that your Man
aging Trustee agreed and actually
marked the booking on the Parsi Cal
endar at his residence where our cli
ent personally delivered his said
letter to your Managing Trustee.
On 23rd January 1978, our client
was requested by the Panthaky of
Cama Baug Agiary Mr Bomanshah
Sanjana to see the Secretary of your
Trust one Mr. Erach Wellington and
our client saw Mr Wellington.
Mr. Wellington informed our client
'Ythat your Managing Trustee had
declined our client ’s request because
the other Trustees had raised an ob-
jection. Our client inquired from rang
Mr. Wellington as to the reasons why
the other Trustees had raised an
objection, but no reasons were given.
Our client believes that an objection
has been raised on the ground that
our client ’s wife is a non-Parsi.
Accordingly, our client addressed a
letter dated 24th January 1978 to your
Managing Trustee (which was deliver
ed at your office on 11th February
1978) setting out his stand. The rea
son why our client waited for several
days before delivering his said letter
to your office was because he wanted
to give deep thought to the matter.
Bv vour renlv dated 20th February _
1978 you have informed our client hpS ^o any favourable response from your
that the booking of Cama Bang halls d s^uss^ ffijs m^tt^^^ ^aye been
V. for marriages, Navjotes and other _ instant and that in done, was to pemit our client to
religious ceremonies^Trlst ft' meanttal you will riot take any participate m fte draw
Rules and Regulations ot tne irusi - -¦ - . .. .r —
and you drew our client ’s attention
to Rule 8 which you stated was self
explanatory.
Our client has perused Rule 8, a
reasonable accurate translation where
of is as under; —
“If any Dastur, Mobed or Athornan
performs the Navjote or Marriage
ceremony of any Juddin in Bombay
or elsewhere, either in public or
privately, the Trustees will have the
right to stop him from entering the
Cama Baug Agiary or any part of the
building or Otlas of Cama Baug, for
3.ny auspicious (_.¦¦¦——----
any Parsi Zoroastrian. ”
In the first instance,
instructs us to point out that Rule 8
has no application whatsoever to our
client ’s case because it deals with the
right claimed by the Trustees to re
strict the entry into „
up
STcom of Law to redress the could not be allowed booKtug o. me
wrnnff done to him. However, before Cama Baug Hall.
he does so, we would like to know 4. It is apparent that a conciliatory
whether your Trustees would be wil- attitude which, we are advising ou
Hn? to S us and our client and client to take does not seem to evoke
d s^ul: this matter „ any favourable response from your
We trust that you will let us have end.^ . „„ client to
participate in the draw and if there
after our client was successful, the
matter could have been discussed
across the table and a reasonaWe
solution could have been reached. By
excluding our client from the draw
you have committed a totally illegal
act a breach of trust and have also
denied and violated the rights of our
client and his daughter as Parsi
d'scuss this matter.
---- - reply by 9th instant and that in
Steps to prejudice the rights of our
client and his daughter.
Yours faithfully,
RUSI N. SETHNA
Advocate and Solicitors,
High Court, Bombay.
Dear Sir. L/Cal OU- < . . •
ofnote ,ha. unless we hear
J^ed'S^Ung Ca^a Baug „_^lu «o «
?* taitMuUy, »«! “o altem. ’tiye but to adtnse
E. M. WELLTOGTON
our client to take further steps in the
matter ir*wx***-^—
filing a suit to restrain the holding
of any function on 2nd May 1978 or
the big Otla of Cama Baug. Foi
this purpose we have to call upor
you to furnish the full name and ad
dress of the person who has been sue
2'
including but not limited to. occasion concerning
our client
The Trustees,
Cama Bang Charity Trust Fund,
Raja Ram Mohan Roy Road,
New Chami Road,
Cama Baug Bombay-400004.i A
f
dedicated for this purpose by charit
ably inclined and generous Parsi
Zoroastrians, this correspondence may
be treated as closed.
6. We are instructed by our client
to express his grateful thanks to your
clients Mr J. N. Guzdar, Mr B. K.
Boman-Behram and Mr B. H. Antia
for the creditable and honourable
manner in which they have discharged
cessful in the draw which took place —
on 2nd instant for the big Otla of ,
Cama Baug, although our client PeOplG tiaCl tOlQ me tO
should not be deemed to have admit- be piactical, tO have the
me correctness or validity o( such navjote performed and
6. Our client will at the ap- then fight it OUt.
propriate time and place disclose the
entire conversation which took place —
at your office on 2nd instant when ___
our client attended to participate in Dear Sir, their duties and we personally also
the draw. 1. We are in receipt of your letter add our thanks to these gentlemen.
7. We would also like to take this No. BHA 10617 of 24th instant to Yours faithfully,
opportunity of correcting a statement hand yesterday in the afternoon and rusi sethna
made in para 7 of our letter of 1st
instant. Our client informs us that he
is not ‘Athoman ’ but a Behdin ’.
Please therefore note that the said
Rule 8 could never have any applica
tion to our client ’s case.
Yours faithfully,
RUSI N. SETHNA
I*- M/s Romer Dadachanji
VJ Sethna & Co.,
Advocates for Mr Rusi J. Enty.
1. We are in receipt of your letter
are instructed by our client to state
as under: —
2. With reference to paras 1 and 2
our client expresses his great regret
that your clients should have taken The Bombay Samachar, Sethna sent an-
SO long to reply to our letters of 1st other version of the letter to the Samachar
and 8th March 1978. In fact, our which was termed the ‘Correct Copy’.
client had already instructed us to file According to Sethna the above letter
a Suit and the draft Plaint for the was only a ‘draft’. In the second
purpose was ready. It is only out of copy
the respect which we have for some
of your clients that we advised our
client to wait.
Dear Sirs, 3. With further reference to para May 7 issue.
1. Our clients, the Trustees of 2, the “misunderstanding ” could only
Cama Baug Charity Trust Fund, have be on your clients part, particularly
placed in our hands your letters to ’ ' ‘
them Nos. RS: 1257 of 1st March
1978 and RS: 1406 of 8th March,
with instructions to reply thereto as
under: — . , . . .
2. Our clients say that they could ly, the date 2nd May 1978 is a ihistake
not reply to your letter under reference
earlier, as the matter was under our
clients ’ consideration and also under
discussion between your Mr R. M.
Sethna and the writer. Our clients
regret that due to some misunder-
Subsequent to the above letter appearing
In fact, our
I the criticism has been toned
down and the reference to publicizing the
episode, paragraph 5, has been deleted. The
‘Correct Copy’ appeared in the paper’s
m view of the fact that the legal posi
tion was quite clear. Our client was Hundred Years Ago
not allowed to participate in the draw
on 2nd March 1978 and not 2nd May
1978 as mentioned by you. Apparent-
New Tower of Silence
Great preparations are in progress,
says the correspondent of the Jam-e-
in your letter because that date has Jamshed at Nowsaree, to meet the con-
not yet come.
clients must no doubt be aware that
7th May 1978 is an Amvas and as
such, our client is not in a position
standing your client was _ not allowed to accept your clients ’ offer. If and
to participate in the draw on 2.5.78. when our client hereafter requires the ¦ ’ _ ¦ ~ hereafter requires the
3. We are instructed to state that Cama Baug, he will avail of your
L
your client can utilise our clients clients ’ offer.
Baug on any day convenient to him 5. With reference to para 4, in
and may approach the Manager for view of the expression of regret by
the same. Even in the month of May your clients and the offer made in
the Baug is available on 7th May and para 3 thereof, our client has in-
if your client wants to utilise the Baug structed us not to initiate any legal
on the said day, he is requested to
contact our clients ’ Manager im
mediately.
Baug on any day convenient to him
proceedings. Our client, however, re
grets his inability to accede to your
___ clients ’ request not to give this matter
4. Our clients hope that your publicity, because as a public-minded
client will accept this letter in the Parsi Zoroastrian, our client feels that
spirit in which it is written and avoid this important decision on the part of
any further publicity of the matter your clients deserves to be made
and close the matter.
yours faithfully
MuUa & Mulla and Craigie
Blunt & Caroe
Partner
M/s Mulla & Mulla and
Craigie Blunt & Caroe,
Advocates for the Trustees of Cama
Baug Charity Trust.
' , " ¦ • venience of Parsee visitors during the
4. With reference to para 3, your ^ew Tower of Silence dedication cere
mony. to take place early next month.
It is expected that the temporary struc
tures erected for their accomodation
will hold nearly ten thousand people.
The five hotels, opened in connection
with these pavilions, together with a
variety of stalls for the sale of fruits,
ice, sodawater, and toddy, will also
contribute to their gratification during
the festive period. Three special
trains for the conveyance of passen
gers to Nowsaree will start from
Bombay, of which the first will leave
at 8 p.m. on the 7th. proximo. His
Excellency the Governor, who has
been invited to visit Nowsaree by
Mr. Nusserwanjee Tata, the builder
of the Tower, will leave Bombay on
the evening of the 3rd proximo, and
stay as Mr Tata ’s guest for a whole
day, tent accommodation being pro
vided for himself and staff. His Ex
cellency ’s presence at Nowsaree will
draw thither, H. H. Sayyaji Rao, the
Resident, and other distinguished
members of the Baroda Government.
Times of India from The Statesman
Parsi Zoroastrian, our client feels that
this important decision on the part of
known through the press for the bene
fit of the community as also trustees
of other institutions who are in a
similar position as your clients. Our
client having proved his point that
the child of a Parsi Zoroastrian father
and an alien mother is entitled to get
his or her Navjote ceremony perfor
med and for that purpose to utilise
baugs and other similar places 27/2/78 submitted by Rustam Saklat.
25
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"SKT
Shiavax Nargolwala:
THE VOICE OF DISSENT
I
i
He is the President of the Delhi
Parsi Anjuman but Shiavax
Dinshaw Nargolwala's sphere of
influence extends to the entire
Zoroastrian community. More
than any other individual or
institution in present times, the
63-year-old former Indian Civil
Service officer has affected the
course of community affairs: he
fought successfully to permit
free and frank discussion at the
Third World Zoroastrian
Congress, was charged by the
Bombay Parsi Panchayat (BPP)
as being primarily responsible for
their resigning from the^
Federation of Parsi Zoroastrian
Anjumans of India (FPZAI), and
under his guidance, the Delhi
Parsi Anjuman (DPA) has
emerged as the intellectual and
spiritual catalyst of the
Zoroastrian community in India.
Like Shiavax R. Vakil, the
provocative, former BPP trustee
who shook a lethargic community
to its roots five years ago,
Nargolwala is also the most
controversial figure of recent
times in the community. His
statements from public platforms,
including the World Congress,
chastising the leadership of the
BPP for their archaic election
system to the shirking of their
role as leaders of the Bombay
community, earned him their
enmity. BPP President, B. K.
Boman-Behram refused to attend
an informal, reconciliatory
meeting of the Federation
representatives if Nargolwala
was present (see A Tale of Two
Federations, Parsiana April
1978)
The Bombay leader was
annoyed over the publication of
one of Nargolwala's many
statements in The Bombay
Samachar, the prestigious
Gujerati daily that has been
espousing liberal causes.
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And to add to the litany of
orthodox woes, the DPA is the
first anjuman to permit the child
of a Parsi mother and non-Parsi
father to enter a fire temple,
namely the Kaikhushroo Pallonji
Katrak Dar-e-Mehar in Delhi. At
Its last annual general meeting
in March the DPA general body
passed two resolutions, one
conferring honorary Anjuman
membership to non-Zoroastrians
and the other permitting non-
Zoroastrian spouses to become
members of the Anjuman but
with certain limitations; a third
resolution, permitting children
of Parsi mothers and non-Parsi
fathers to become full-fledged
members of the Anjuman was
rejected because even though
a majority favoured the proposal,
it did not receive the
mandatory 75 per cent.
A practising chartered
accountant, Nargolwala has a
distinguished academic record.
A first class Bachelor of
Commerce graduate of Bombay
University, he received an
economics degree from the
London School of Economics in
1938, the year in which he also
passed his I.C.S. qualifying
examination. In government he
held senior positions such as
Commissioner of income-tax,
joint secretary defense and
additional secretary, finance,
before retiring in 1973.
He has been President of the DPA
for the last 18 years and vice-
president of the FPZAI since its
inception. Parsiana interviewed
the silver-haired, pipe-smoking
,dissident leader In Bombay on
April 9 following the Federation's
Executive Council meeting. The
intervievy was given conditional
to his being shown a copy of the
transcript prior to publication.
What are the major
PARSIANA: Why do you feel the
Delhi Anjuman has an image amongst
the other anjumans, especially Bom
bay, of being more radical?
NARGOLWALA: Because the Delhi
Parsi Anjuman consists of highly
educated, motivated people, holding
very important positions in govern
ment as well as business, banking,
industry, commerce and trade. They
are, therefore, always actively think
ing of progress. Of course, another
reason for this image, right or wrong,
is that we are a very cosmopolitan
society in Delhi, practically every
state and every union territory has its
members living here. The concept of
national integration is stronger in
Delhi than in the State capitals be
cause the State capitals reflect the
society of the state but in the capital
city of India the image is more cosmo
politan and in that sense more
progressive.
PARSIANA: What are the major
issues confronting the Delhi Parsis?
NARGOLWALA: There is no major
issue because we have been the most
harmonious anjuman. We have a
system of adult franchise whereby
trustees are elected for only a short
period of three years. Then they have
to stand for election again.
PARSIANA: Can anybody vote?
NARGOLWALA: Yes, any member
of the Anjuman can vote.
PARSIANA: What is the qualifica
tion to be a member?
NARGOLWALA: To be a member
the person has only to be a Parsi
Zoroastrian over the age of 18. A non-
Zoroastrian spouse can also become
a member, subject to certain restric
tions.
PARSIANA:
fees?
NARGOLWALA; There is a mem
bership subscription; for an individual
resident member it is 24 rupees and
for a resident couple it is 36 rupees
per annum. For non-resident members
it is less. In return for the subscrip-
J
Has he to pay anyWhy should not at least
to meetings ot to anjunm. It ts just
an honour. “Why should not at least an honour, it is like the honorary
40,000 or 50,000 be involved degree of the university,
lujuuvwr w,vvv« _ PARSIANA: They cannot
the trust funds or enter the agiary?
NARGOLWALA: No there is no
question of availing of trust fund^ be
cause they themselves are v. c” I*
they are Zoroastrians they will natur
ally be entitled, whenever they visit
- , - Delhi, to enter our agiary and all that,
dramas, picnics, sports and all the know the agiary and
J__ ________Wd ItlVlfP ’ * -r--w • ___ _ ______ 1,,
various scholars and people of repute ! Delhi Parsis.
a. __________ ____ 3 '
JJ
in the process of electing
the trustees?"
if
The opportunity for young boys and
girls of the community to know each
avail of other, and get married are not as
great as in a place where the commu
nity is concentrated in an area. So
I lutiuo ../V- mixed marriages are occurring in Delhi,
well-off. If though as I explained to you we have
made every effort to promote friend
ship betwven our own boys and girls
at these functions and various other
gatherings. By and large our girls and
boys have been marrying within the
community in Delhi, but quite a few
cases occur where either the boy or
girl is a non-Parsi. And the second
resolution which was put forward at
the annual general meeting was that
such children of Parsi mothers, whose
navjot had been performed regardless
of the fact that the father was a non-
Parsi, with the consent of the parents,
.'rf they should be allowed to become
ft members of the ahjuman. But the
K requisite majority of 75 per cent was
H not forthcoming and, therefore, this
B resolution has not come into effect.
¦ But the Trustees of the Delhi Parsi
¦ Anjuman following the decision of
¦ Saklat versus Bella of the privy coun-
¦ cil have decided that any child of a
H Parsi Zoroastrian mother' who has
I been initiated into the Zoroastrian
religion by the due performance of the
navjot with the written consent of both
parents, can worship at the agiary.
' far as the agiary is concerned, it
decided by the privy council in
Saklat versus Bella that it is at the
discretion of the trustees to decide
who should be allowed and not be
, ------------ o--— aiivwvd. The privy council decided
a Parsi, would that entitle him to trustees objected then Bella
enter the fire temple? had no right, legal right, but on the
NARGOLWALA: It depends on the ; ^^her hand if the trustees allowed her
law of the land. If a person comes ' ^o other Parsi could object. The
orivv council made a distinction be-
the Tehran Anjuman and by the laws trust properTy. The privy council said
-
4
When issues arise in
tion the members can attend all the
functions, the Jamshedi Navroz get-
together, the Pateti function, the
lectures which we arrange.^ We invite j ^amgah in Delhi are nof only for
to come and talk, not necessarily on '
religion but various other subjects. ,
And all these services are provided
without charge. Also the Dipanjali
magazine which comes out twice a
year is sent free to every member.
And now there is a monthly news
letter as well.
24 PARSIANA: When issues arise in
Delhi, does the leadership itself take
a decision or do they look for guidance
to Udwada, or Bombay or Iran?
NARGOLWALA: Well, you see no
issue has arisen so far which requires
an outside decision. And the leader
ship is provided by the trustees them
selves. But once or twice in the past
occasion has arisen for consulting high
priests, for example when we con
structed our new agiaiy we consulted .
Dastur Hormazdiar Mirza. Similarly
a question was raised when one of ;
our members died and the family
wanted the body to be cremated; the
question arose whether religious cere-
monies should be performed of such PARSIANA; If an honorary member
a person and we took the advice of of the anjuman were to become a ----
Dr Mirza and he said that if the family Zoroastrian, even though he were not allowed,
has decided on cremation then they --------- - ------- ...
must arrange for the funeral services, enter the fire temple? had no right, legal right, but on the
- - ’ • __ _____ i _____
So we followed his advice. law of the land. If a person comes ' jjq other Parsi could object, '^e
The three resolutions from Iran and he has married a ““ ------- H j
tween an agiary and other kinds of
— • ---4
of Iran can ^come a Zoroastrian. yQu "have funds of a Parsi
i
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the anjuman should not make arrange
ments. So we followed his advice. ,
PARSIANA: The three resolutions from Iran and he has married a non-
that were taken by the Delhi Anjuman Zoroastrian, the lady, by the laws of
at the annual general meeting ... was 1
this the first time any anjuman in ----- — ----- - 4 ----- j -t
India had taken up such resolutions? Such a person would be admitted into ¦ zoroastrian trust and if you allow
NARGOLWALA; 1 am not aware : ««« -
whether any other anjuman has ]
honorary membership but it was ab- i------------ . , xt, + '
solutely non-controversial. We felt tianity. We have not reached that ,
that people who have rendered signal stage yet. But if according to the laws
service to the community or reputable of his own counriy, his wife has legal-
scholars of our religion and ancient ly become a
Iranian culture of whatever nationality, '
such as Dr. Prof. Mary Boyce or L-----
Dr. Ali Jafarey were to be made an issue
honorary member of the anjuman,
then it would be a great honour to us.
PARSIANA: \ _
the membership entitle them to?
NARGOLWALA; There is no privi
lege as such, because they don ’t pay
any subscription, they don ’t vote at
then the other persons are deprived
an agiary. But not a person who say S ^he use of the funds by such a person,
has simply converted himself to Zoro- ^hen the other persons are deprived
astrianism from Hinduism or Chris- to that extent. But so far as the
“This idea of a clash
ly become a Zoroastrian then we . «ersonalities, I do not
would accept that lady in our agiary. to ”
PARSIANA: What about the second SUPScrwe w.
:__ e of Parsi girls marrying out, and
their children being admitted in the
e a great honour to us. Are temple; you say this issue has right of wSim to
What prMeges does Kc„ debated in the commumty for “™Vsons ar?^^o" derived of to
about two years?
NARGOLWALA; Yes, actually the
debate is because of what I said ear
lier, Delhi is a very (
right of worship in the agiary is con-
other persons are not deprived of the
right to worship, so no harm is cau^
to them. And there is no desecration
cosmopolitan of the temple or anything like that be-
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I.r>^trustees
cause that child has become a Zoro
astrian by the performance of the
navjot. The decision of the privy coim-
cil was that in such a case it is for
the trustees to decide. If they allow
admission, nobody can of " ''
PARSIANA: When did
take this decision?
NARGOLWALA: Since the resolution most of the friends who are non-Parsis
did not get the requisite majority such
a child could not become a full-fledged
member. The action of the trustees
was a separate decision to allow mere
ly the use of the agiary to such
persons.
would like to pay their last respects.
So, unfortunately 15 to 20 years ago
we had the system of making these
people sit outside on the verandah,
not in the bangli itself and they were
not allowed to see the face of the
PARSIANA: And the third resolu- dead person after the ceremonies
were performed. Then gradually non-
Parsi relations were allowed; take
tion?
NARGOLWALA: The third resolu
tion pertains to the non-Parsi spouse /for example Captain Engineer who
of a Parsi member wlm before could died in the air crash when the Chief
not become a member, tt was a rather Minister of Gujarat was also killed
\j|humiliating and embarrassing situa- during the Pakistan hostilities. His
^tion that the wife was a member and wife was not a Parsi, all his Air Force
the husband came as a guest; or the friends. Air Marshall Arjan Singh,
husband was a member and the wife they were all very prominent people,
came as a guest. And there was no and they wanted to come and pay
equality between the husband and their last respects. In fact Air Marshall
wife so far as the membership was Arjan Singh even left the conduct of
concerned. J We felt that this embarras-
sement or' humiliation was uncalled
for, that both should be allowed to gradually first the relations, and then
become members because we have non-Parsi friends were allowed to pay
joint membership in our anjuman. No their respects. Mr Rusi Bhote of the
non-Parsi married to a Parsi can be
come a member unless both of them
become members. We don ’t recognize India in New Delhi —^passed away
single membership if the person is recently. His wife is a Parsi but many
married. We have only regularised of The Central Bank staff had come
the de facto position by this resolution to pay their last respects. Probably
by allowing the non-Parsi spouse to as many as 200 to 300 people. And
become a member of the anjuman they were all allowed to pay their last
with only three restrictions. One, that respects before the body was put in
.since he or she is a non-Zoroastrian, the coffin and buried in the ground,
^he or she cannot enter the agiary, he / And this is good not only for the
or she caimot claim to be buried in image of the community but for the
the aramgah and he or she cannot family also. They get moral support
become a trustee. Subject to these j when they see all these friends sharing
three restrictions, the non-Parsi spouse / in their grief and coming forward to
since he or she is a non-Zoroastrian,
will now become a full member of ^respect the departed soul,
the anjuman with the right to vote .........
and participate in the affairs of the
anjuman.
PARSIANA: In Delhi, after the geh
sarna ceremony is performed, are
non-Parsis allowed to pay their
respects?
NARGOLWALA: Yes, about 15 to
20 years ago when I took charge of
the affairs of the anjuman as the pre
sident, we had to face this problem
because in Delhi, Parsis have more
non-Parsi friends than Parsi friends.
Which is natural if you are only 500
and are living in a city of about 30
to 40 lakhs, naturally most of your
friends will be non-Parsi. Therefore,
when a death occurs in a Parsi family
“If the people want good
leaders then their right to
voice honest criticism
of their leaders is very
sacred. ”
the war and came to the cemetary for
two hours to pay his last respects. So
Central Bank —he was the number
one man in The Central Bank of
im
fa:
PARSIANA: How many trustees are
there in the Delhi Parsi Anjuman?
NARGOLWALA: There are nine
trustees who are elected by adult
franchise for three years. The election
always takes place in March at the
annual general meeting. Suppose I
am elected in 1975 then I will vacate
in 1978. Somebody who is elected in
1976 will vacate in 1979; so there is
continuity. We have also introduced
a rule whereby the elected trustees co
opt two more trustees so now we have
11 trustees. Nine are elected, two are
co-opted by the nine, and by conven
tion these two are always ladies to
give representation to the female
members of the community.
PARSIANA: Would you say that
these trustees are only the custodians
of the funds and properties of the
Delhi Anjuman or are they also the
leaders of the community?
NARGOLWALA: We have a dual
capacity as trustees. When we estab
lished the agiary, the dharamsala and
our religious funds, we made separate
trust deeds for these institutions. So
the administration of these institutions
is done by the trustees of the Delhi
Parsi Anjuman. Nobody else can
administer these institutions except
the trustees of the Delhi Parsi Anju
man for- the time being. But then we
are also a registered society under the
Societies Registration Act of 1860. As
a registered society we have to elect
a managing committee and frame our
own rules and regula^ns describing
the powers of the managing commit
tee, who will be the office bearers,
what will be their functions, who will
incur what expenditure, and so on. So
the elected trustees of the Delhi Parsi
Anjuman are also in a dual capacity
the trustees of the religious and charit
able institutions. The society has
other funds also, for example, we have
a general fund —^the membership sub
scription that we collect is put in the
general fund —these are used for
general purposes. We have a scholar
ships scheme.
PARSIANA: Would you say that
most of the other anjumans in India
have this system or are the trustees
basically just custodians of the trusts
and properties?
NARGOLWALA:
wind of change now. You take the
Parsi Panchayat, Bombay, or the
Surat Panchayat, they are the trustees
of the funds and properties entrusted
in their care by the various charitable
persons who foimded those agiaries or
dokhmas or other institutions. Even
schools or colleges could be run by
trustees.
dividual anjuman, how it runs,
whether it runs as a trust of the funds
and properties or whether it runs as
a registered society with a proper sys
tem for the election of office bearers
and so on.
PARSIANA: Do you feel that the
Bombay Panchayat and the Surat Pan
chayat have taken shelter behind the
fact that they are only custodians of
the funds and properties and have
thereby avoided issues, or do you feel
that this is their role?
NARGOLWALA: No, my position
is that I would like them to be leaders
of the community. I do not like this
nebulous position where on the one
Well, there is a
It depends on the in-
anjuman.
29n'
¦ 1 cable give-and-take, it was decided to
have greater confidence when taking form a Federation. The original idea
action. At present because the was to form an association of Zoro
astrians but finally the idea of form
ing a Federation of the member
anjumans was accepted by all; and
zonal representation was given, based
on the population concentration and
the importance of the community in
that particular area. That is why the
Bombay Parsi Panchayat was given the
pride of place, both in the president
ship of the Federation as well as in the
forums, there is no reason why adult council. The same with Surat. So also
franchise should not be introduced to a certain extent with Poona,
here also. But I do realize the validity Madras, Secunderabad and Hyderabad,
of the other argument also; that if we Calcutta and so on.
try it straightaway we might introduce PARSIANA: What was the main
politics into our community affairs, objective of starting the Federation?
-- - - — — - . - , .
The main object
of starting the Federation arose from
the first World conference held in
Tehran. It was felt there should be a
three years to be reelected. But the if not graduates and there are also national federation and this national
Bombay Parsi Panchayat ’s electoral qualified doctors, lawyers, engineers, federation would be further affiliated
system should be changed and their architects, etcetera, so adult franchise" to a world federation. Now we had
franchise broadened. It is argued that for our community is not as dangerous anjumans in India, big and small, and
adult franchise is too wide, and per- a proposition as it would be for a ’ ’
haps undesirable people might create community where illiteracy is high or
hand they are only trustees function- community, and they in turn would
ing in their capacity as trustees and I
on the other hand also functioning as action. At present because the
leaders of the community —but without franchise is narrow, any action which
the necessary legal sanction.
example you take the case of Delhi
or some other anjumans, there PARSIANA:
the people who are elected as trustees
are in a sense not only the trustees
of the properties of the anjuman but
are also leaders of the community.
They are elected by adult franchise simple reason that if it is used satisfac-
for a short period of three years. They torily for election to state assemblies,
have to justify their existence. They parliament, and in various other strength of its trustees in the executive
have to go back to the electorate every f - - - ..
anjumans.
If for they take must satisfy the small por
tion of the community that elects them.
_ jjj. favour of
adult franchise for the election of
trustees?
NARGOLWALA: Frankly, I am in
favour of adult franchise for the
to
r
“Our people are
prominent in medicine,
in law, but in the
government they are
\9osing ground.
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people will buy votes, or people will What did it hope to achieve?
be influenced as most politicians are NARGOLWALA:
influenced. Mind you in our com
munity literacy is 100 per cent —most
of the boys and girls are matriculates
if not graduates and there are also
architects, etcetera, so adult franchise" to a world federation.
we had concentrations of Parsi popula
tions in certain areas like Gujarat,
where education is low. But it does Bombay, Calcutta, Nagpur and so on.
We felt that all these anjumans should
trouble. But nobody disputes, not
even the trustees of the Parsi Pancha
yat, that their present system is very
narrowly-based. There are about 5,000
to 6,000 people on the register. They thing I am sure about in my mind, that
' ¦ ' it should be a direct election. You
may have on the Registers, graduates.
And the trustees professional people, or people who pay . . , .
income tax, or wealth tax, or people succession, marriage and divorce. The
who hold certain office, in government idea of a Federation materialized and
its objectives have already been stated
¦ in its Memorandum, the objects are
very wide but they can be summed up
in one sentence —that whatever would
do good to the community, would
promote its welfare is the object of the
Federation.
PARSIANA:
major accomplishments of the Federa
tion have been in the years of its
existence?
elect a very small number of persons
to form a committee, who in turn
elect the trustees, x__ _ _ ______
are elected for a long period. They
themselves have now appointed a
committee for electoral reform. People
say there are 65,000 Parsis in Bom-
« ^bay. Why should not at least 40,000
Njmr 50,000 be involved in the process
not follow that we should jump
straight away into adult franchise. We have a common organization where
they could exchange views, take each
other ’s advise, make a sort of sustained
representation to Government when
ever the occasion arose about changing
the laws and so on about adoption.
can have some other system. But one
it should be a direct election.
**To inculcate the spirit of
enterprise, no minority
of electing the trustees? The present commission can help you
indifference of the Bombay Parsis to
the Bombay Parsi Panchayat is be-,
cause the franchise is not broad-based.
Then also there must be a system of and so on. That would keep the base
annual accountability. You may be
elected for 10 years but every year
you must lay before the persons who
have elected you a report of the work-
in that.
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What do you feel the
narrower than adult franchise, but it
would be a direct vote. It is not desir- .
able that they should elect some small NARGOLWALA: The most import-
number of people and who in turn
ings of the institution, what the people should elect the trustees, this I don ’t
who have been elected have done, approve. x* . -
You must invite suggestions, com- PARSIANA: You have been one of body, it is not directly m^ contrm oi
ments, resolutions and take some
concrete actiom Once you have this
system of a broad franchise, annual NARGOLWALA:
accountability and
ant accomplishment is the elimination
of the communication gap. You must
appreciate that a Federation is an apex
communication
approve.
PARSIANA: ________ ___
the founders of thTFederation. Could any'funds or properties of any anju-
you tell us how it was formed? i^man. It is like la father or a grand-
NARGOLWALA: The idea was i father in a family. Everybody respects
mooted in 1962 and was reinforced 1 the elderly person, everybody respects
It is like
rop
ijT
father or a grand-
idy
Js
vhl
between the community and the at the Second World Zoroastrian 'f his advice and his ^idance.l^ to my
leaders of the community, then the Congress held in Bombay in 1964. It 'mind, and I think I can say this with-
Parsi Panchayat ’s image will improve, 1 _
it will become better. People will between the leaders of the community
bring their problems to them, look from all over India, conflicting claims
up to them as the leaders of the were advanced and finally by an ami-
Congress held in Bombay in 1964. It VVligjlVOO XXV/XVl XXi AiX I. X.. ..------ . . - ...
took many meetings and discussions jout hesitation, the communication gap
’ ¦ • ' -x ^jhas been eliminated for the first time
I in the history of the Parsis in India
I running over the last 1,300 years. We
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“The freedom given to
the press, the eminence
given to the press, is
reduced by its own action.
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lishment ot an agiary or a dokhma. Parsi Panchayat is that it is not a
These are matters for the individual truly representative body of the Parsis
anjumans. But this closing of the in Bombay, that its election system is
I communication gap is bringing all very narrow, and because of this nar-
I Parsis together, and turning their row base, the right type of leaders are
F attention to certain pressing problems; not elected or even if they are elected
and even the Third World Zoroastrian f their functioning is restricted. All these
Congress would never have been held criticisms I have been makiug since
but for the initiative taken by the i 1962. I made the criticism when Mr.
Federation. I would not claim that i Nadirshah Mulla was the chairman of
Ae initiative came only from the Delhi j the Parsi Panchayat, when the Federa-
’ ........ - - . - - .
cussions, we put the proposals. 'Jehangir was the chairman, when Mr.
PARSIANA: Why do you feel the Erach Nadirshah was the chairman
Bombay Parsi Panchayat left the and I made the criticism when Mr
Federation? Boman-Behram is the president of the
Parsi Panchayat. So it has nothing to
have now a body which can communi-
cate from one part of the country to Federation. I would not claim that i Nadirshah Mulla was the chairman of
the other. And apart from the Federa- the initiative came only from the Delhi j the Parsi Panchayat, when the Federa
tion the idea of zonal conferences was Parsi Anjuman, but we started the dis- j tion was formed, when Lady Hirabai
introduced; the south zone should cussions, we put the proposals, 'Jehangir was the chairman, when Mr.
have a conference, the north zone ” - ... -
should have a conference, and so on.
Because the east zone has very few
Parsis therefore we had a combined NARGOLWALA: It is a delicate
conference of the north and east zones
in Delhi in January 1977. And in
Bangalore we had a south zone con- __ __ ____ _____ _ _____
ference and a lot of exchange of views unwarranted, unauthorized and unpro-
I
matter. One reason given is that the do with a clash of personalities! What
Federation has not served any useful happened is that until very recently,
purpose. The other reason is that there was a lot of free and frank dis-
____________________ cussion between us and the various
and so on. Then this question of the voked attacks have been made against anjumans, but unfortunately when
amelioration of the priestly class was the Parsi Panchayat. These are the the idea of this Third World Zoroas-
taken up after many, many years, reasons they have given and I have trian Congress was mooted there.was
And then there is the question of re- given my views, to the press. an orthodox section in the communi ty
presentation to the govenunent. We PARSIANA: People say that one of they did not want the congress to be
l^ve made a representation on adop- the reasons for the Panchayat leaving held and naturally the trustees of the
tion, we are now going to make a the Federation was the clash of per- Parsi Panchayat living in Bombay and
representation in regard to the mar- sonalities? being in close contact with the various
riage and divorce laws, succession NARGOLWALA: No, no. section ... they were a bit nervous or
laws. Then we have the Minorities PARSIANA: Between you and hesitant. It must be said to the credit
Commission. We have to put our Boman-Behram. of Lady Jehangir that she saw the
problems before them. So the achieve- NARGOLWALA: " ' ' * '
ments of the Federation caimot just be
counted in terms of something visible,
like a housing scheme or the estab
amelioration of the priestly class was the Parsi Panchayat.
And then there is the question of re-
the Federation was the clash of per
sonalities?
NARGOLWALA: No, no.
Between you
No, I would not strength of our argument that it was
¦ high time a world congress was held.
J And this was all done before Mr.
criticism that I have voiced of the Boman-Behram became the president
say that. This idea of a clash ofi^r-
sonalities I do not subcribe to. JThe
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the Federation in the last five or that reply should also be published,
personalities; it is a question of this
pressure from the orthodox section
and pressure from people who are . __ ________ _____
supported^ by some sections of the hearing "is not given to the other side
created the situation as we find it now.
PARSIANA: What part do you think
of the Federation. Then because we the press has played in the break up
once decided to hold the congress, and of the Federation
1’ ¦ ¦ ' .
orthodox section started first of all to __ __ __ _____ __ ______
try and prevent the congress from believer in its freedom. I am also a conciliation. And time itself is
“I may be wrong, no
human being is perfect.
But I am hurt when
motives are ascribed to
me.”
seven years so it is not a question of The right to comment is absolute. The
press can comment. The press can
pursue policy ‘x’ or policy ‘y’. But if
in the pursuit of that policy a fair
press and who are vocal, that has then it is self-defeating. The freedom
.u-j ,1.^ '' given to the press, the eminence given
to the press, is reduced by its own ac
tion. So I am hopeful. The history of
, r. ' 7 - ------------------ - all institutions has ups and downs,
that was a unanimous decision, the NARGOLWALA: Well I have great There are sometimes differences, they
orthodox section started first of all to respect for the press and I am a lead to a break and then there is a re
try and prevent the congress from believer in its freedom. I am also a conciliation. And time itself is a great
tamg place and when that attempt great believer in the proposition that healer. We cannot stand aside wh^
tailed, they rtied to prevent discussion the press, which has so much freedom the whole country is moving forward I
of any of the controversial problems, and so much eminence, should ex- PARSIANA: If the Bombay PancEm
lhat also failed and when the con- ercise restraint over itself. Now if a yat does not rejoin, do you feel the
^'ess was such a great success, and paper constantly goes on publishing Federation could continue?
views were freely and frankly exchang- one side of a discussion or a debate NARGOLWALA: Well, it is not a
ed, the pres^e of the orthodox sec- and indulges in encouraging personal question only of the Bombay Parsi
K Panchayat increased attacks and so on, then I personally Panchayat. It is a question of what
, Aoecau^ they felt they were losing feel that it is not playing the proper will happen if the Bombay Parsi Pan-
vy ground. So propaganda was started role which the press should play. I chayat does not rejoin so far as the
and it IS this that has been described .....
as a clash of personalities. The presi- ____ _ ___ _____..............
dent of the Panchayat is the president port ‘x’ or ‘y’ policy and it is fuUy en-
of the Federation He is the supreme titled to do so. Its proprietors, its vmc xoxox rouvuayau juxu»
Federation. Who can shareholders, its editors lay down the the Federation or does not join, does
challenge him? Who can have a clash policy and it should do its best to ’ ' '
with his personality? The four vice-
presidents are four eminent personal!-
there be a clash of personalities? And the other side. And this is particularly whether it joins or does not, even if
personalities keep on changing. We so if any personal attack is made. If it does not join and if it carries out the
have had three or four presidents of the person attacked sends a reply, then objectives of the Federation, the Fede-
and so much eminence, should ________ _____________ ______
ercise restraint over itself. Now if a yat does not rejoin, do you feel the
freely exchang- one side of a discussion or a debate NARGOLWALA: Well, it is not a
' " j -------- ¦ and indulges in encouraging personal question only of the Bombay Parsi
accept the position that each news
paper has its own policy. It may sup-
I chayat does not rejoin so far as the
other Panchayats are concerned. As I
have noted there are certain intangible
objectives and certain tangible objecti
ves. Whether the Parsi Panchayat joins
it not have to tackle the housing
promote that policy. It may support problem in Bombay? Does it not have
-. . - - * ------- one version of a problem but it to tackle the problem of the priestly
ties from the four zones. Why should should not shut out a fair hearing of class? That has nothing to do with
I..* <1 * - . ~ ----- WlXVtXlVX AU JVXUO VX UUl, even U
persoMhties keep on changmg. We so if any personal attack is made. If it does not join and if it carries out the
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i “If they xejoin then the continue with the Federation if you the first question was in which coun-
( unity of the community is felt there were a few people willing to try it should be headquartered, not in
’ ‘ ¦ — — ¦ -• which city. There, conflicting views
were expressed, some said London,
some said Geneva, some said Tehran,
and so on. Now I said that if it is in
India it would be preferable to site it
If they rejoin then the
a restored. The Federation
. can speak for the
community as a whole.
9)
stay on?
NARGOLWALA: This is a question
which only time can answer. I don ’t
have any authority to answer because
I am only one member of the Execu
tive Council and of the Federation. It outside Bombay so that it should not
would then depend on all the remam- “
ing members to decide on the future
course of action.
h ..... ...... .............
c
t] ration will be happy. There is no con- would then depend on all the remam- be dominated by any Federation as
ti flict of interests. But if they rejoin, ing members to decide on the future such or even by any constituent mem-
u then the unity of the community is course of action. ber of the Federation. This idea of
h restored. The Federation can speak PARSIANA: Assuming that 50 per having a common secretariat, you
cent of the members wanted to stay have seen what has happened with the
on and continue with the Federation withdrawal of the Parsi Panchayat
would you feel that it were possible and the Surat Panchayat from the
Cl claim that it is speaking for the com- to do so, financially and in every “
ii munity. That situation is unfortunate other way?
B and it should not have taken place, it NARGOLWALA;
ft would have only been fair to the com- [ '' “
a: munity if these objections of the Parsi Federation is very, very minor. A few
ai Panchayat had been discussed at the thousand rupees a year is sufficient,
ta executive council meeting and then But if the remaining members decide
A the Parsi Panchayat could have taken to carry on we will carry on and the
pi a decision to remain or not to remain, f
hl But unilaterally withdrawing without people who have left to rejoin,
til the slightest discussion in the proper PARSIANA: What prompted you to
re forum which is there for discussion, say at the world congress that should
ri this was unfortunate. a world body be formed, it should not pendent, autonomous, world body. Be-
~ cause you must appreciate* that the
NARGOLWALA: Well, the point is problems facing the Parsi Zoroastrians
differ from place to place. Even in
s; for the community as a whole. If
E they don ’t rejoin then the position be-
P comes nebulous. Each party may
claim that it is speaking for the com
munity. That situation is unfortunate
Federation. We have to think of reor
ganizing the entire works. This causes
Finance is no disruption. And it permits one compo*
problem. The finance for running the nent of a constituent body to have an
~ " excessive grip or influence over a
world body. That is why I had sugges- i
ted that if it is to be headquartered
in India, then it should be outside
door will always be open for the Bombay, preferably in the capital city
of the country. Suppose it is in Iran,
it has to be in Tehran and so on. The
idea was to have a sort of truly inde-
no
forum which is there for discussion,
this was unfortunate.
la PARSIANA: Suppose the Bombay be headquartered in Bombay?
C Panchayat, Surat and some of the ’ ~
pi other panchavats do not rejoin and that I was not so much against it he
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“Whatever would do good
to the community, would
promote its welfare, is the
object of the Federation.
hold, and the motives of those views, jobs in government service, that their
that it is for the good of the commu
nity and not because I want to oppose
some other panchayat or some other
anjuman.X
PARSIANA: Is there any possibility
personal laws are very diflEerent. The
Christians have their own problems.
We have never made any claims as a
minority. We have never asked for a
seat in parliament, we have never
asked for anything to be done special
ly for the Parsis. We have always
taken a national outlook and view
point. But our laws are now antiquat
ed. The Parsi Marriage and Divorce
Act when it was passed in 1936 was
if
of a parallel body coming up in
Bombay?
India they differ from place to place. NARGOLWALA: I would rather
Today for example you hear about wish the other thing would happen,
the villages losing aU their Parsi popu. That the Parsi Panphayat would as-
lation. It is the same in Iran, the sume its true and rightful place as
villages have all been denuded and leaders of the community and based ahead of the legislation governing other
people are now concentrating in on a wide franchise, not necessarily communities. Now it is at the bottom.
Tehran, Shiraz and so on. In Canada adult franchise; but if they don ’t move The Hindu Marriage Act has been
and America the problem is to pre- with the times, if people are dissatis- enacted, revised, made into a modern
serve this great religion, to have hed with their leadership, then the law, and a special marriage act has
knowledge of it so that it can be pas
sed on to the children. So I meant no
disrespect to the Bombay Parsi Pan
chayat. I felt that a world body head
on a wide franchise, not necessarily
adult franchise; but if they don ’t move
with the times, if people are dissatis
fied with their leadership, then the
chances of a parallel body coming up made marriage laws for all communi-
are quite frightening. Because people ties more rational, logical. Now take
are not now prepared to just blindly the succession act, there also we are
follow their so-called leaders as we far behind. Now what happened in this
Air India crash (on 1st January 1978)?
Most of the people who died in the
cabin crew were Parsis. And they were
So I do hope that the Parsi Panchayat young people, most of them 18, 20, 24,
30 and 35, many of them would not
have left wills and instead of the com-
we
ijAjiartered in any country should at have seen in Indian politics. Today the
^^ast be in the centre of power of that leaders are more criticized than leaders
country, and its organization should be have been criticized ever in the past,
delinked from any of its constituen
cies. It should have its own building,
its own secretariat, its own managing
committee and so on. , , „ - __ ___
PARSIANA: Your critics charge the Surat Panchayat and the Parsi the children, it would go to Jhe parents,
that you are trying to build a follow- P ’ ,
ing ^f^like-minded people? phase, they began to lose their leader- widow is left with hardly anything,
ship role; they began to lose the res- Now if our succession law had been
pect of the community. Then people attended to earlier, this sort of tragedy
would itself assume a proper role and
a proper leadership position. _ ______________
Even 100 years ago —150 years ago pensation money going to the wife or
Panchayat passed through this very the brothers, the sisters, and the poor
NARGOLWALA: There is no perso
nal axe to grind so far as I am con-
ship role; they began to lose the res-
cemed. I work for the good of the came up and made them conscious of would not have arisen. So the Minori- -
community in what I feel is the best their responsibilities and they assum-
interests of the community. Jl may be ed their proper role. And now once
) wrong, no human being is perfect. But again this thing has happened. Again
j I am hurt when motives are ascribed it may change.
I to me. When people think I am doing
[ this to collect a following, or I am
doing this to go against some person people want good leaders then their
in the Parsi Panchayat or Surat Pan
chayat/...it is absolutely incorrect.
ties Commission is very important for
us too. In the legal and the socio-eco
nomic sense, it is not important to us
for having seats in the municipal
council, or legislative assembly, or
If the parliament; it is not important, be
cause far more than by our numbers,
we on merit achieve distinction in all
—J—, ........ ........—- J .........—X oxxxvvxvij walks of life. Qur real problem is,the
I^M^hat interest have I in doing such a hope that there will be unity in the motiv ation of our youg^er generation,
^^ing? I have been the president of Federation and that it will continue to Our youth is not willing to go out of
the Delhi Parsi Anjuman for the last play its useful role. Otherwise we will Bombay. They prefer clerical jobs.
18 years. Never once has there been lose valuable time in tackling our pro- They must have their cinemas and
a contested election of any trustee al- blems. ' ' '
though we have adult franchise. What PARSIANA:
interest would I have in disunity or
going against anybody for my perso
nal interest. There is not the slightest
reason on earth why I should be
motivated except for the good of the _ _ _ __
community I have not stood for any reUttons,"and th^
political office. 1 have not canvassed
any vote from any section of the com
munity so that I would go their way _ -
and oppose somebody else. fl have respects (tO the dead),
been absolutely non-political through-
out my life and also absolutely cosmo-
politian and non-communal in my NARGOLWALA: Well, the terms of
outlook. When I say non-communal, I reference are very wide and in our
use the word communal in its ‘bad ’
The price of liberty or the price of
progress is eternal vigilance.
right to voice honest criticism of their
leaders is very sacred. But I sincerely
hope that there will be unity in the
the Delhi Parsi Anjuman for the last play its useful role. Otherwise we will Bombay. They prefer clerical jobs,
a contested election of any trustee al-
clubs or dances. They are not enter
prising enough to start new businesses.
In the old days in Bombay we had
small shops run by Parsis, we had
small businesses run by Parsis. Take
for example a business like aerated
waters, the name of Rogers and Dukes
are famous. In Calcutta Byron was
famous for aerated waters. They were
all Parsi businesses. Now to inculcate
the spirit of enterprise, no minority
commission can help you in that. You
have to help yourself. One important A
thing which we must drill into our I
younger generation is that unless they j
join government service, join the )
armed forces, and other civil services ,
in the country, we will not be able to
. * „ - - -- ------ have our voice heard in the seat of i
will be reached of the view that I vantaged, that they don ’t get enough power. The bureaucracy is very strong.
How will the Minori
ties Commission stand to benefit the
Parsi community?
"So gradually first the
non-Parsi friends were
allowed to pay their
99
case the benefits will differ from say,
for the Muslims or the Christians. The
'I hope a proper understanding Muslims feel that they are the disad-
I ^nse/So this is what hurts me most.
*/And hope a proper understanding
1
i
35“Whatever would do good
to the community, would
promote its welfare, is the
object of the Federation. ”
hold, and the motives of those views,
that it is for the good of the commu
nity and not because I want to oppose
some other panchayat or some other
anjuman.X
PARSIANA: Is there any possibility
of a parallel body coming up in
Bombay?
NARGOLWALA: I would rather
wish the other thing would happen.
That the Parsi Papphayat would as
sume its true and rightful place as
leaders of the community and based
on a wide franchise, not necessarily
adult franchise; but if they don ’t move
with the times, if people are dissatis
fied with their leadership, then the
chances of a parallel body coming up
are quite frightening. Because people . _________ ______
are not now prepared to just blindly the succession act, there also we are
follow their so-called leaders _ ... ' - -
have seen in Indian politics. Today the
jobs in government service, that their
personal laws are very different. The
Christians have their own problems.
We have never made any claims
minority. We have never asked for
seat in parliament, we have never
asked for anything to be done special
ly for the Parsis. We have always
taken a national outlook and view
point. But our laws are now antiquat
ed. The Parsi Marriage and Divorce
Act when it was passed in 1936 was
ahead of the legislation governing other
communities. Now it is at the bottom.
The Hindu Marriage Act has been
enacted, revised, made into a modern
law, and a special marriage act has
made marriage laws for all communi
ties more rational, logical. Now take
, ---------- -------- ...------!
far behind. Now what happened in this
Air India crash (on 1st January 1978)?
Most of the people who died in the ”
cabin crew were Parsis. And they were
young people, most of them 18, 20, 24,
30 and 35, many of them would not
have left wills and instead of the com
pensation money going to the wife or
as a
a
India they differ from place to place.
Today for example you hear about
the villages losing all their Parsi popu
lation. It is the same in Iran, the
villages have all been denuded and
people are now concentrating in
Tehran, Shiraz and so on. In Canada
and America the problem is to pre
serve this great religion, to have
knowledge of it so that it can be pas
sed on to the children. So I meant no
disrespect to the Bombay Parsi Pan-
¦V h^^t. I felt that a world body head- luuow ineir so-caiiecl leaders as we
„ ----- -i have seen in Indian politics. Today the
.jast be m the centre of power of that leaders are more criticized than leaders
V J -____-*<* ¦« 4 • ••
delinked from any of its constituen
cies. It should have its own building,
its own secretariat, its own mana ging
ago —150 years ago pensation money^going^ to the^wife*or
PARSIANA: Your critics charge the Surat Panchayat and the Parsi the children, it would go to4he parents
SJ through this very the brothers, the sisters, and the poor
NARCOT they began to lose their leader- widow is left with hardly anything,
nti o? . V®'® ® P®'®®’ ^he res- Now if our succession law had been
nai axe to grmd so far as I am con
cerned. I work for the good of the _ ________________
community in what I feel is the best their responsibilities and they
interests of the community, a r 2 . „
wrong, no human being is perfect." But -—JxkL
I am hurt when motives are ascribed it may change.
to me. When people think I am doing “
A|iartered in any country should at
^Wcast be in the centre of nower nf that
country, and its organization should be have been criticized ever in the past.
cies. It should have its own building,
i*" ---- ----- X ¦ . ..
committee and so on.
So I do hope that the Parsi Panchayat
would itself assume a proper role and
a proper leadership position.
. . , - - . - -------- Now if our succession law had been
pect of the community. Then people attended to earlier, this sort of tragedy
came up and made them conscious of would not have arisen. So the Minori-
ties Commission is very important for
us too. In the legal and the socio-eco
nomic sense, it is not important to us
for having seats in the municipal
doL fhi tn O’- I am progress is eternal vigilance. If the parliament; it is not important, be-
I ftiLV cause far more than by our numbers,
phn^tt / > Panchayat or Surat Pan- right to voice honest criticism of their we on merit achieve distinction in all
^ayat /...it is absolutely mcorrect. eaders is very sacred. But I sincerely walks of life. Our real problem is the
th ^'’ch a hope that there will be unity in the motivaUon of SSFl^er generatiOT.
npih- pj • *® of Federation and that it will continue to OuFyouth is not wiIIiHg' to g5 out o^^
1R S Anjuman for the last play its useful role. Otherwise we will Bombay. They prefer ^clerical jobs
18 years. Never once has there been lose valuable time in tackling our pro- ' - • -
a contested election of any trustee al- blems.
though we have adult franchise. What PARSIANA:
interest would I have in disunity or
going against anybody for my perso
nal interest. There is not the slightest
reason on earth why I should be
motivated except for the good of the *«,^*.«**
community. I have not stood for any
political office. 1 have not canvassed and then
any vote from any section of the com- „ --------
munity so that I would go their way avowed to pay their
and oppose somebody else./I have respects (tO the dead).”
commumiy in wnat I teel is
interests of the community, h
—-J assum-
may be ed their proper role. And now once
t again this thing has happened. Again
The price of liberty or the price of
How will the Minori
ties Commission stand to benefit the
Parsi community?
“So gradually* first the
non-Parsi friends were
They must have their cinemas and
clubs or dances. They are not enter
prising enough to start new businesses.
In the old days in Bombay we had
small shops run by Parsis, we had
small businesses run by Parsis. Take
for example a business like aerated
waters, the name of Rogers and Dukes
are famous. In Calcutta Byron was
famous for aerated waters. They were
all Parsi businesses. Now to inculcate
the spirit of enterprise, no minority
commission can help you in that. You
have to help yourself. One important A
thing which we must drill into our ’
younger generation is that unless they I
join government service, join the ’
armed forces, and other civil services i
in the country, we will not be able to \
have our voice heard in the seat of i
power. The bureaucracy is very strong. '
been absolutely non-political through- __________
out my life and also absolutely cosmo-
politian and non-communal in my NARGOLWALA: Well, the terms of
outlook. When I say non-communal, I reference are very wide and in our
, benefits will differ from say,
, ----------------- for the Muslims or the Christians. The
I hope a proper understanding Muslims feel that they are the disad-
wiIJ be reached of the view that I vantaged. that they don ’t get enough
, use the word communal in its ‘bad ’
4.1.Z- _____t __ X
j senseJSo this is what hurts me most.
# a proper understanding
n
1
i
35:<¦
tn Ae old days many Parsis joined the
civil services of the states. You re
member even in native states, a Parsi
“The Third World
tvcu m uauvc siaics, a rarsi
divan was preferred. Entering the civil Congress
services is something.which the Fede- would never have been
ration could encourage. It should select held but for the initiative
some boys and girls who
and give them the necessa^ financial
help. Tatas do that for their concerns,
send people abroad for training in
various professions and so on. They
have the Tata Administrative Service.
Our people are prominent in medicine,
in law, but in the government they
are losing ground. When I say govern
ment, I mean bureaucracy, the actual,
executive limb of the government. In
the armed forces there are very few
Parsis joining. This is a very serious
problem. Now here also the Minorities
Commission cannot help. You have to
help yourself.
<
Nevertheless the future of the com-
unity, taking the world as a whole,
is very bright. But I am worried about
the future of the community in Bom
bay. I am not worried about the future
of the community in places like
Bangalore. Madras. Take for example
Dolly Madon. He left Calcutta as a
young boy and single-handed he
established one of the biggest busi
nesses in Madras of stevedoring and
supplying of stores to ships and so on.
There are many instances like that of
Parsis out of Bombay who have built
up a reputation which any community
can be proud of. But what will happen
in Bombay, if remedial action is not
taken, is that after 25 or 30 years the
community will consist of two cate
gories, one clerks and the other pro
fessionals such as doctors, lawyers. 1
help yourself.
are brilliant taken by the Federation. ”
‘We have now a body
which can communicate
from one part of the
country to the other.”
don ’t want to name any names, but
I am an advisor to many b’g business
houses. They have great faith in Parsis,
they still have that respect for Parsis
which they had in their father ’s time
or grandfather ’s time. One company
had a job of Rs 4,000 to offer, with
all perquisites. There was a young
Parsi in Bombay who was interviewed.
going to a big town in Uttar Pradesh.
Ultimately because of the pressures of
his parents and his family, he gave up
that job. He did not take it. He would
have become the finance director of
one of the biggest companies after five
or ten years.
PARSIANA: After you retired from
government service what have you
been doing?
NARGOLWALA: Apart from having
been in the Indian Civil Service for
35 years, I am a qualified chartered
accountant. I did my C. A. from Eng
land and Wales. So after I retired I
started my tax practice as a C. A. and
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management and things like that. And
with God’s grace I am quite happy.
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toric flight from Karachi to Bombay.
While inaugurating India ’s first air
mail service 46 years ago, Tata who
had yet to assume control of th^ 900-
crore Tata empire, gave the gift of
wings to the country. Without radar,
runways or airports, with only one
Leopard Moth and a Puss Moth, a
handful of employees and a palm-
thatched hut for an office, Tata Air- '
lines with Tata in the cockpit and at
the controls, grew to be the country ’s
international flag carrier, spanning five
continents, which reaped an estimated
profit of Rs 25 crores last year. As
Tata himself said on the occasion of
the thirtieth anniversary of the airline,
‘If Tata Airlines had been a failure
it would never have become Air-India
... it (Air-Tndia) would not be what it
is today. ” On 4 February 1978, after a
long innings, the 73-year-old chairman
of Air-India was summarily relieved of
his responsibilities by the government.
Air Chief Marshal P. C. Lal, chairman
of a Calcutta-based Tata firm, was
ap]^inted joint chairman of both
nationalised corporations, Air-India
and Indian Airlines.
"If Tata Airlines had been a
failure. It would never have
become Air-India."
“Air-India has survived despite the
fact that the airline business is most
vulnerable to political, social and __ _____
economy changes everywhere in the had not shown a keen personal inte-
world; Tata is largely responsible for i—_ _____
Its survival, ” notes K. G. Appusamy, comprehension
Air-India ’s managing director and joint
vice-chairman of Air-India and Indian
Airlines. His deputy, N. H. Dastur aircraft interiors; from
who retired a year before he was due
to do so, says, Tata was largely length of a hostess ’ hair, Tata
rest, according to his colleagues. “His
* ’ ' I was remarkable,'
says an associate. From the intrica
te J X XT TT- ----- aviation to flight schedules and
His deputy, N. H. Dastur aircraft interiors; from passenger
; comfort to crew uniforms and the
I was
responsible for the high standards of reportedly a stylist and gave meticu-
service. He would rather give good lous attention to every detail. He had
service than make a profit, though he ™
did like both. He was a finer socialist
than many others who pretend to be
socialists. ”
Dastur ascribes the former chair
man ’s success to his “instinctive feel
about the airline business and his jud-
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gement which was always right. He
was a fine administrator; he trusted
his officers, delegated responsibility and
never interfered. He took decisions
only after a consensus had been reach
ed. ” No matter how busy he was run
ning the Tata empire, “he was always
available for advice. He somehow^
managed to give you an appointment
on the same day you asked for cn:
¦ This made for smooth functioning,'
says Dastur.
There was not a single aspect of
the airline business in which Tata
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steward ’s shirtfront irked him ac
much as a hostess with chipped nails
or fat around her waist.
“From time to time we seem to
be getting lax about the weight of our
hostesses ... any fat around the waist
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becomes clearly visible and is exag- taken on his suggestion that blue Arrival at Juhu of the inaugural mail
gerated into an unsightly roll fiuid should be used in aircraft flight from Karachi. Second from left,
when the hostess bends down while lavatories. “It looks better, ” he ex- Capt. Homi Bharucha, Tata, and Neville
attending to passengers, ” Tata would plained. For years, Tata hammered Vintcent.
caution time and again. According to at his colleagues, “Always aim at
Dastur, “After every flight he would perfection and be satisfied only with
excellence. ”
“Tata ’s high standards of perfection
and taste were responsible for the
ling, the state of the aircraft, crockery Air-India Boeing 747 decor, consider-
and cutlery, down to a broken tin ‘
opener which might need replace
ment.
At Tata ’s insistence, aircraft cabin
lights had to be on during meal ser
vice so that when tables were laid in
first class, “the cutlery would sparkle.
He didn ’t want Air-India to switch
to plastic glasses even when other air
lines had done so as a measure of
an
return with several pages of notes on
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{iow to improve service, ” having ob
served everything from ground hand-
Tata would make generous allowance
for human error. When a terrified
Air-India hostess spilt coffee on his
immaculate suit, he laughed it off
with, “Next time make it whisky. ” “He
rarely lost his temper with his staff, ”
according to Dastur “and tried to
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ed to be one of the most beautiful in
the world, ’'* says Jal Cowasji, Air
India ’s publicity consultant and one
time head of the publicity department.
Cowasji recalled that it was the chair- "After every flight he would
man ’s farsighted policy of beautifying return with several pages of
Air-India offices all over the world ' ¦ ¦
with paintings and murals by Indian
artists and Indian artifacts which “any
other conservative chairman would
have felt was a waste of time and
... . . money. ” During their 23-year work-
"He would rather give good ing relationship, the consultant re-
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notes on how to improve
service/'
maintain the personal touch, ” even
after Air-India had become an estab-
. _ _ „ ------------- X-, .— ------------ lished and running concern nationaliz-
ServiCe than^ make a profit ceived many midnight telephone calls ed and somewhat impersonalised. “He
though ho did like both." at home from Tata, suggesting “how was dear to his staff because he was
a message on an Air-India hoarding genuinely interested in their welfare, ”
might be unproved by the deletion or says Appusamy. After the recent
addition of a word. We had to give New Year ’s day airplane crash, Tata
so much of ourselves because he reportedly visited the bereaved fami-
. ¦ lies of the 23-member crew to per-
Though a stickler for perfection, sonally offer his condolences.
economy because Air-India had to be
better than the others. At one regional
heads meeting he reportedly wanted gave so much of himself, ” he says,
to know why no action had been
39“K he was occasionally strict with
his senior executives he was kind and
humane with the ‘lower ’ cadres, ” in
formed Cowasji. The consultant ’s
and having joined Tatas as a partner
in the venture, he organised the ser
vice, small as it was in every detail. ‘
....
long association with Tata has given Airlines did not have an all-weather
him an insight into the man who
despite the numerous claims on his
airstrip; “the airport ” was a dried
grass strip near the sea, usable for the Leopard Moth, the Fox Moth, the
only eight months of the year. At high Miles Merlin, the Waco and the De
tide during the monsoon, the strip
___ _____ would be flooded and the airline
soon, the strip ^Ould be would have to transfer operations to
flooded and the airline would ®mall strip at Poona, next to the
have to transfer operations Yeravada Jail. No facilities in the
to a small strip at Poona.
At high tide during the mon-
time, thinks nothing of taking his on the route, night flying was impos-
gardener ’s children for a drive or re- f ” ’ _i„„
gularly visiting his old and ailing hills, vast deserts, swamps and the
Khansama (cook) at the hospital. ] ’
According to a story circulating in
aviation circles, the chairman was ¦
once discovered sitting on a fence at |
the airport, nattering away with the |
loaders while waiting to take a flight 3
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to Delhi. In fact, he never missed
the opportunity of chatting with the
pilots “as an old pilot, ” or visiting
thtk engineering base to know all about
the latest developments in engine
technology, avionics and air-frames.
For all the time and attention he
lavished on Air-India, Tata ’s friends
jokingly accused him of ulterior
motives. The chairman would re
portedly reply to the charge with
T characteristic good humour: “My
ca friends say that my great interest in
st Air-India is due to the pretty air
d( hostesses. This is only a slight exag-
bi geration. ” On a more serious note
th he admitted, “The international air-
Je line business is still the love of my
to life, ” and that he had been “nuts
about flying from childhood, ” much
m of which he spent in France where
ha he was bom. And on the occasion of
cr the thirtieth anniversary of the airline,
Wi Tata recalled how Air-India had been
m nurtured from the smallest beginnings
L< “with little more to sustain it at first
ha than the love, the sweat and the
thi devotion of those who worked for it. ”
Between the wood and fabric of the
th Puss Moth to the gleaming metal,
ini thrust and deep-throated roar of an
co Air-India jet are Tata ’s years of
pr struggle. After acquiring a pilot ’s
Ta licence, he started the airline in 1932
th along with a former Royal Air Force
“I ofiicer Neville Vint cent. “He was in-
it deed the founder of Indian air trans-
• •. port ”, said Tata in an interview with
is 1 Air-India ’s house journal. Magic
loi Carpet. “It was he who visualized
of the possibil ’ties at the right time,
his worked up the scheme with great care
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storms, torrential rains and clouds ot
locusts. Despite the formidable odds,
Tata airlines flew 160,000 miles dur-
Bombay, the principal base of Tata ing the first year of operations with
unbroken regularity.
Soon the Puss Moth bowed out to
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a small strip at Poona, next to the
Yeravada Jail.
way of navigational aids were avail
able to guide the primitive little planes
in bad weather and as there were no
lighting facilities at any of the airfields
sible. The route ?rossed""5,00b ft-high
planes had often to contend with dust the thirtieth anniversary of Air-India.
Tata handing over a mail bag to Maha
raja Scindia of Gwalior during a stop-
over on the inaugural flight.
Tata and his wife, Thelma, after the
reenactment of the inaugural flight onV
Havilland Rapide; with new aircraft,
new routes were opened but the
second world war brought about a
temporary lull. Tata who had by then
become the chairman of the entire
Tata Group, established a training
centre for pilots and an aircraft fac
tory near Poona.
Until the end of the second world
war it was neither practical nor econo
mical to carry both passengers and
mail. By 1946, however, Tata was
satisfied that he could operate a first
class service to England and so the
airlme ’s name was changed to Air-
India. To preempt a government
decision to have a state-owned airline,
Tata sent a memorandum to the gov
ernment in late 1947, in which Air-
India offered to create Air-India
International as a joint project in
which the government would take
With Compliments
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^^19 per cent of the shares and Tata ’s
^®would undertake to hand over to the
state two per cent of their holding
anytime they asked for it. To Tata ’s
surprise, the government agreed to
the proposal in its entirety. Air-India
International was born and its service
to London via Cairo inaugurated on
8 June 1948, at least two years earlier
than could otherwise have been pos
sible.
Within the next four years, the air
line had doubled its operations, mak
ing a profit till 1952. By July 1953,
10 more airlines had emerged on the
national scene and the government
nationalised them all in the same
year. Air-India Limited was merged
in the Indian Airlines Corporation
and Air-India International Limited
was taken over by Air-India Inter
national. At the request of the Gov-
.^^emment of India, Tata agreed to be-
^^FCome chairman of Air-India Inter-
national.
His farewell message at the time he
handed over his airlines to the nation
read : “And now the time has come to
say goodbye. As we turn the last page
and put away the book, regret or
bitterness has no place in our hearts.
Instead we may find content in the
thought that what we did was worth
doing, that we set our standards high
and would not lower them, that we
never need part with our memories. ..
How did Tata feel when he
relieved of the chairmanship of the
airline he had conceived and nurtur
ed? According to Dastur, what he
had once ruefully admitted a few
years ago perhaps still holds true;
“Because I was present at the birth
of Air-India I feel a little like a
mother who can ’t realise her baby has
grown up. ”
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Lend them your ears
Listening for Managers
by J. B. Madan, 92 pages. Modern
Marketing Consultants, Rs. 12.50.
author has provided an example ot •
this in the appendix in a rather ex- I
emplary, cut, dried and correct way.
Such situations require more discus
sion. The good example may be good
as far as it goes, but most people learn
________________________ better from a bad example, even a
the rest of the organization, with caricature. Beyond the person-to-
person situation, an experienced man
like the author would himself recog-
a ministry or department as in
the public and private sectors.
More than just communications
go awry when there is distrust and
dislike between two or more top men
in an organization. Their communi
cations sometimes have seismic effects
on 1 _
reverberations on many a graph.
The reviewer finds fault with two
areas of Listening for Managers. The nise the added dimensions of the pro-
first is that it seems to be written on blem. Here, a very useful learning blem.
experience, that of listening to and
interacting with more than one person
in situations of inherent conflict, has
Madan ’s book reminds one of an
old-world Pelman course (a popular the assumption that managers are a
correspondence course for the devel
opment of the mind); it takes
you through several lessons in listen
ing, each with a brief presentation of
salient points, “a wrapping up ” of the
lesson, a pondering point for stress, planning of scarce time, and that is an
suggestions for “the ceneeientle ’ee important precenditier.. So ere pre- .. _ .
manager ”—^presumably the chap who viously agreed objectives for any a good listener is one with whom it
-v wants to listen —^and finally some group activity, so that the limited time is a pleasure and a profit to talk, one
^A’elman-style home-work in the shape is used to the best purpose. Without who also makes you feel that two
^^of a “quiz ” or questions at the end. it there is waffling, impatience and heads are better than one; and that
He is certainly a “conscientious ” not enough time for all the desirables you are then an augmented indivi-
¦ • " ' - ¦ ¦ ' ’ dual. Result? Added value.
Indian managers are Indians first,
and hence a talkative lot. In such a
tribe of many tongues and a few pens,
Madan lays claim to being the first
cept of “Executive Listening ” is situation is relatively easy. But what and only “ear ” in book form. Most
derived from a Harvard Business about a more problematic communi- of us could make a bettef beginning
School advanced management pro- cations session between manager and with good listening, as executive or
- - T spouse, parent or friend.
leisured class, and that even those
with the best of intentions are not
bedevilled by the pace of events, the been omitted,
pressures of work and lack of time.
Good listening has to go with the
the conscientious important precondition. So are pre-
group activity, so that the limited time
is used to the best purpose. Without
it there is waffling, impatience and
not enough time for all the desirables
The second criticism is that the
person-to-person situation, which
Madan has chosen, is too limited in
managerial experience. The interview
situation is relatively easy. But what
derived from a Harvard Business about a more problematic communi-
of a “quiz ” or questions at the end.
He is certainly a “conscientious ” _______
author, laying a careful net for the the author rightly recommends. '
reader or pupil to ensure he does not ~
escape the lesson through casual
Apart from the fact that the con-
pt of “Executive Listening ” is
reading or lack of purpose.
situation.
gramme, this is really a homespun unionised workers and their officials?
work in a brief 92 pages (a reflection what about interdepartmental meet-
of managerial inUke capacity?), ings on really knotty problems? The
Madan ’s collaborators are his daugh- .
ter and son, “the inspiration, devo
tion and attention ” are from his wife,
die anecdotes are largely drawn from
eastern India and the publishers are
bis own consultancy firm. There are,
of course, acknowledgements to
others for their help. A maiiager .
bcould conveniently read it on a single
^Indian Airlines flight, if he does not
have another talkative Indian beside
him 1 In which case, this inexpensive
book could be gifted to his neigh
bour.
There are many worthwhile pass-
ages. For example, the chapter on
“Upward Communications ” is espe
cially relevant in a hierarchical society
where belief lies in one-way communi
cations —downward, no matter if the
senior is “clever ” or not. In India,
communication is like water, the
natural flow is downward. Like water,
it is regarded as unnatural —some
times even impertinent —when it
flows upward, unasked for. The chap
ter on “Barriers ” to good listening,
complements the earlier one.
In a society which is both hierar
chical and functional, the point made
about the consequences of dis
trust and dislike at the top is of
major importance, as much as in
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